Talk:Fall Out Boy/Archive 1

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[edit] Confirmation that the band's name is from The Simpsons

From an with Matt Groening, creator of The Simpsons:

Crave Online: What do you think of the band Fall Out Boy?

Matt Groening: What an honor. Fall Out Boy the rock band named itself after the sidekick of Radioactive Man played by Millhouse. I hope they don't have too many regrets.

Davecort 08:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Indie days?

They were never indie, I don't care if take this to your grave was the #17 US Top Indie Album, it does not, in any way, fit in with the indie genre. can we please get rid of this? I mean honestly.

They were on an indie record label and unknown for a long time before they moved over to Island...

[edit] Still has some vandalism

emo is extremely gay. people can be emos and too many of them are. any one who agreed with what was previously here is gay.

Go Phunk yourself{UTC}

[edit] Not back-up vocalist

Sure, at shows, Pete screams and sings 2 notes, but hes not a back up. i can tell you that right now.

I have something to tell you, HE IS A BACK-UP VOCALIST. It's him screaming in the background on the recorded tracks too, that makes him a back-up vocalist.

Emo (music)

[edit] Block

I think it would be wise to put a temporary block on the page. The vandals from that rediculous livejournal community are going to keep coming here. Spuddy 17 20:22, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I am seriously thinking about semi-protecting it again. I'll let it go another hour or so and if we see more vandalism, throw on semi-protection for a bit. --GraemeL ^(talk) 20:25, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Please semi-block it man... -Ababil

I happened by this page for a reference to see it was redirected to Pansy. Could use a lock. CharlieP216 23:09, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fall Out Boy's Evening Out With Your Girl and Evening Out With Your Girlfriend, EPs?

Uprising Records released "Fall Out Boy's Evening Out With Your Girl" on February 23, 2003 as an EP. Uprising then released a repressed version of the album on May 17, 2005 entitled "Evening Out With Your Girlfriend." The tracks were remastered, however the EP title still remains.

Here is one souce verifying the EP status of the albums: Artistopia

Im not going to be a douche but it's not an EP. an EP has between 4-7 songs on it, at 8 songs an album traditionally becomes an LP. the reasoning for this is in the vinyl format(where LP and EP come from)an ep (7") cannot hold as much music. at 30 minutes the thing is an LP. check your facts before following what one site says. by the standards set in this article any album released before the late 80's(the advent of cd's) is an ep, including such titles as the Damaged(Black Flag) and Ramones (ramones) just to name a few. im changing it back to the album listing because it falls in the same running tim as an LP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.179.227.58 (talk • contribs)

I agree, nowhere else is this album verified as an EP. It costs just as much as an album, so I'm going to go ahead and change the other references. --DieHard2k5 | Talk 16:02, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Kerrang magazine and on the fall out boy website said that infinity on high is FOB's 3rd album so technically EOWYG cannot be a LP Nemesis90 22:44, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Have you heard evening out with your girlfriend? It sucks hardcore. I don't think they want to advertize it as an album. And besides, technically it is an LP, it's got more than 7 songs. Them saying it's not is actually not a matter of technicality, just opinion. I mean, you can call a cow a horse but it's not going to win any races.

[edit] TEMPLATE

I got a template, everybody! --Akrabbim 02:48, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

I find these templates for a band that has, like Fall Out Boy, very few seperate articles really superfluous. I still don't know why every single and every band member needs a seperate page when the Fall Out Boy article is in as bad a shape as it is at the moment. IMO, they should all be merged into the FOB article and the respective album articles. --HarryCane 09:20, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, the reason the band members' pages aren't merged is because personal bios don't belong in the band article. However, this page is in serious need of maintenance; we need some actual band history, as well as discussions of sound, style, genre, and other details far more important than Internet parodies. What we need is a [not entirely devotional] fan, that knows something about Fall Out Boy's history (which isn't all that common, since they are still a developing band) that has some respect for Wikipedia, too. Cleaning up this talk page would be nice, too, but that's not that much of a priority. --Akrabbim 13:24, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

I tried to clean up a bit. It still needs a lot of work. --Russ is the sex 19:20, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Music videos

I removed the line about having lots of dialouge in their music videos... only their most recent one has any spoken lines in it. -Maverick 09:05, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

Can someone find a good picture of all four of them, instead of the cover of Take This To Your Grave? You can't really see any of them very well. Free source would be nice, too. —Akrabbim 02:54, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Changed the picture to reflect the band's most recent look. The previous picture was out of date, relatively speaking. Not sure of the image usage, though. Hopefully it can stay. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Steviedpeele (talk • contribs)

Is "You're A Fag" really a Fall Out Boy picture? I don't have one, nor the time to get one, but can someone please take care of this? Pro bug catcher 01:18, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

It's just a result of some vandalism by Spartanpass. It shouldn't be a problem, but everybody who reverts it doesn't realize that there is another picture that is currently in use (falloutboy.jpg). Fortunately, he's blocked now. —Akrabbim^talk 18:34, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

how about the picture of from there my space http://myspace-405.vo.llnwd.net/01441/50/49/1441029405_m.jpg

[edit] Two Articles for Take This To Your Grave

Take this to your grave has two articles for it, the proper version which there is a link to off the fall out boy page and another that can be found when searching without proper captilisation. The other version should be deleted. This is the proper version - Take This to Your Grave Other Version - Take this to your grave

Done. I changed the bad page to a redirect. Well, I thought I did. Maybe only editors can do it? Iorek85 00:15, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Future album

Confirmed Songs

You Can't Spell Star Without A&R - A song referencing the band's feud with labelmates The Killers.
They Make Plans, We Make History - A song about how bands focus on what they believe they need to do rather than just doing it. This MAY also be called We Don't Take Hits, We Write Them- this song was played several times on several Fall Out Boy tour dates
I Liked You A Lot Better Before You Were a MySpace Whore - Pete Wentz commented that this B-Side from From Under the Cork Tree would be included, although for legal reasons the name might be changed. It is important to note that this is not "Our Lawyers Made Us Change the Name of This Song So We Wouldn't Get Sued" from From Under the Cork Tree, the two songs are different.
Gay Is Not a Synonym for Shitty (G.I.N.A.S.F.S.)
The Carpal Tunnel of Love - this song was leaked on absolutepunk.net sopposedly by Pete himself.
This Ain't a Scene It's An Arms Race - Reportedly the upcomming and first single from the new album. It's said to be released on November 21st.

Possible Songs

Time Machine - Recently played on Black Clouds And Underdogs Tour.
Go Down In History - Recently played on Black Clouds and Underdogs Tour, but might be another name for "They Make Plans, We Make History."
Austin, We Have a Problem - A B-Side from From Under the Cork Tree.
Hand Of God - A B-Side from From Under the Cork Tree.
2nd Emo - A B-Side from From Under the Cork Tree.
What's This? - Maybe a Bonus Track From The Nightmare Before Christmas Soundtrack
Star 67 - A B-Side from From Under the Cork Tree.

I have removed the previous information as there is absolutely no source information whatsoever. I left some brief information on the page, but it also is unconfirmed. This kind of detail is also unecessary on this page, even if it is true. —Akrabbim^talk 20:49, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, I was the one that added that information (although I wasn't logged in at the time). You don't take me for a liar, do you? :) It just all depends on how detailed you want to get on the next album. As for sources, I've collected the information from several places, mostly MTV.com News Interviews, two AbsolutePunk.net interviews with Pete Wentz and several of Pete's journal entries and Q&A responses. I don't know exactly how you want to cite stuff. And while we're at it, I think you should re-add the line about having a compelation album of B-Sides and rarities, because Wentz said (in the AbsolutePunk interview) it would probibly come after this next album. Tye8806 03:17, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, that's fine, It's not like I didn't believe you. It's mostly just that this article doesn't need to go into that much detail. An encyclopedia article isn't a repository of all existing information on a subject. There aren't track listings for albums that have come out, because there are separate articles. When FOB releases an official tracklist, then there is reason to create a new article for the upcoming album (this is what happened with the Goo Goo Dolls' Let Love In). For now, I don't think it's significant enough to include any more than I left, you know? Thanks for being civil and talking about it (unlike some 80% of the editors of this page), instead of just getting into an anonymous edit war. —Akrabbim^talk 03:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

"Carpal Tunnel of Love" is the first single off the record; not a "leaked song". The band actually had it put up. 24.161.133.145 10:08, 9 January 2007 (UTC)Janet

Uh... no. The only place it was released was on iTunes and that only just charted inside the hot 100. You're right on the band putting it up themselves though, and the album version is different (more polished, louder guitars, extended intro)

As for some of these songs...

You Can't Spell Star Without A&R - Pete Wentz said a while ago this was renamed This Ain't a Scene, Its an Arms Race.
They Make Plans, We Make History - Not quite sure about this. I've seen some live videos of this song performed. I guess it just got canned.
I Liked You A Lot Better Before You Were a MySpace Whore - Its either had a title change, or its been scrapped as well
Gay Is Not a Synonym for Shitty (G.I.N.A.S.F.S.) - indeed on the album (as a bonus track), really good track.
The Carpal Tunnel of Love - aha
This Ain't a Scene It's An Arms Race - yup

Possible Songs

Time Machine - Don't have a clue
Go Down In History - I think you're confused with The Music or the Misery, which was a b-side to From Under the Cork Tree as well. There's a verse in its bridge which says 'and if you want to go down in history then I'm your friend'. A shame it got shafted, its a pretty good song.
Austin, We Have a Problem - A B-Side from From Under the Cork Tree. - stayed a b-side
Hand Of God - A B-Side from From Under the Cork Tree. - got canned pretty much after it was recorded.
2nd Emo - A B-Side from From Under the Cork Tree. - this is just an instrumental track which someone renamed Fall Out Boy on file sharing programs/sites.
What's This? - track on The Nightmare Before Christmas Soundtrack
Star 67 - This was actually a Project Rocket song on their first split EP. Check out the wiki page on that for more info

SilverNightFire 07:14, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] XO Single

Looks like some n00b made a page for XO, with a crappy gif file made from paint as the cover. Has this even been released as a single. I assume that since A Little Less.. Single doesn't come out until July 6th, it's safe to say that they haven't picked a new single yet. AFD? -- Diehard2k5 18:36, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Follow Up: AFD listed. Please contribute. -- Diehard2k5 20:38, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

How or where do you listen to a b-side?Tabbishea 02:20, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] First Song Written

I noticed some bands and/or members of said bands have the first song they ever wrote on their profiles. Any chance we could do that for this band, as well?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.33.22.4 (talk • contribs) .

What profiles? MySpace? That's up to Fall Out Boy to tell people, it isn't really encyclopedic information, and especially not relevant to this article. It would fit better in individual band members' articles, if at all. —Akrabbim^talk 21:36, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

No, I found some of the said songs on members of the bands pages, here on the Wikipedia. Ex. "Skylines and Turnstiles" on Gerard Way's page. But, thank you anyway.

The reference on the Way page is relevant because it contributes to the development of a fairly notable band. If Fall Out Boy (or a specific band member's) first song is relevent to their development as a notable group, then it belongs. If it just serves as a bit of trivia that really doesn't have to do with anything, than it doesn't. It's really just an issue of relevance to FOB's notability (is that a word?). —Akrabbim^talk 20:54, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pop-Punk

Not to rant or anything, but isn't Fall Out Boy "Pop-punk", not "Alternative Rock"? Google has 140,000 more results for the former, the band is commonly tagged as "Pop-punk" on Last.fm (Alt Rock is a much less-used tag for them), and the comparing examples of the two genres show much more mor commonality with pop-punk.

i totally concur. alternative rock is sonic youth or the jesus and mary chain, but this is a prime example of the former. i'm changing it. Joeyramoney 21:10, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

yup. they can be decribed as a pop punk band, but they are not defined by it. Xsxex 06:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I edited it Geege 13:53, 2 December 2006 (UTC) What The fuck. Pop Punk is Screeching Weasel, not this bullshit.--71.236.239.19 01:54, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Don't go dumping FOB on Alternative Rock. A Perfect Circle is Alternative Rock, not FallOut Boy. "Pop-Punk"/"Emo" is a good enough genre. "Pop-Punk" because that's what it sounds like, and "Emo" because that's what the lyrics sound like. --Heiki Storm 10:36, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

To even call Fall Out Boy pop punk is an absolute disgrace. fallout boy are emo. to relate them in any way to any type of punk is wrong. Get over it.

[edit] Genre

Emo = Sunny Day Real Estate, Texas Is The Reason, Rites Of Spring, etc.
Pop punk = Descendents/ALL, NOFX, Lagwagon, etc.
Alternative rock = Sonic Youth, The Pixies, Smashing Pumpkins, etc.

Fall Out Boy doesn't sound like any of these bands. They are a pop band. Change it already.--momo 23:53, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Neither do they have anything in common with Britney Spears and Kelly Clarkson. They are not a pop band. Allmusic, as we've noted and agreed upon before, is one of the only sources as to what music they are and it says they are Rock, with stylings of Punk-Pop and Emo. That was the consensus before. If you want to find some other sources, that would be helpful. --Iorek85 00:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Musically there's a lot dynamics between ultra-soft / whispered vocals / twinkly guitar bits and full-bore crashing / twin Gibson SG guitar roaring / screaming vocals. One of the most recognizable and universal elements of emo shows up in the guitar sound of this style: the octave chord. Octave chords give this style a high-pitched, driving urgency and a very rich texture. The Gibson SG / Marshall JCM-800 guitar combo and Ampeg 400 bass amp is the classic emo gear. Solid-state amps are unheard of.

The vocal style is usually much more intense than emocore, ranging from normal singing in the quiet parts to a kind of pleading howl to gut-wrenching screams to actual sobbing and crying. Straight-edge boys tend to hate that part, and much derision is levelled at emo bands on this point. Most emo bands tend to have some epic-length songs that build up very slowly to a climax where someone cries. If you're receptive to this kind of thing, it can be extremely powerful and moving, since it's very hard to fake that kind of pure emotion convincingly.

Lyrics tend toward somewhat abstract poetry, and are usually low in the mix and hard to decipher. Record inserts have lyrics, but often so disorganized and haphazard that they're very difficult to read [unless the record was released on Ebullition Records, in which case there are many inserts on small, brightly-colored papers containing poetic writing from the label owner and all his friends about disillusionment, anger, and things that happened when the writer was four. Such writing is known as emo writing, and there are many, many zines just like that]. Said inserts are almost always done with antique typewriters or miniscule hand-lettering, containing no punctuation or capitalization. Often the only information about the band listed is the band members' first names. Another trait of really emo records is to have no information whatsoever about song titles.

Commercialism is very much repressed in this emo scene. Few bands make t-shirts. Most records are put out on very small, home-run labels or on the band's private label. Records are sold cheap (the classic pricing scheme was $3 7"s, $5 LPs, and $8 CDs. Inflation has driven these prices up in recent years). Shows are univerally $5 or less, and touring bands often are lucky to get gas money (despite the promoter usually not paying local bands).

There is also a bias against digital technology within most bands. Emo recordings tend to be analog only, cheaply done, with a tendency toward mostly live tracking with few overdubs. Equipment is heavily weighted toward tube gear. Until recently, most emo records were made on vinyl only. CD reissues of broken-up bands' discographies are becoming common, though. (Taken from Fourfa.com) --momo 01:05, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Your definition of emo is very specific. If you read the Emo (music) page, this is true for the "1st wave" Emo, the way it started. Since then, the term has become more broad even to include many non-independant bands, like Jimmy Eat World, Dashboard Confessional, Panic! at the Disco, My Chemical Romance. The article states, "the breadth of bands listed under today's emo is even more vast, leaving the term 'emo' as more of a loose identifier than as a specific genre of music." Pop/Punk really is a subgenre of alternative rock, like emo is to pop/punk. Take This to Your Grave was certainly more pop/punk than emo, but From Under the Cork Tree has a lot more emo influence. As a whole, Fall Out Boy doesn't fit perfectly under any of these categories, which is why the consensus was a little bit of all of these. —Akrabbim^talk 02:16, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I have read the Emo (music) page, numerous times. Having emo/pop punk influences does not make your band emo or pop punk. Good Charlotte was influenced by many good punk bands (Minor Threat, for example) but does that make them punk? Also, just because Allmusic said Fall Out Boy was emo, doesn't make it true. J-14 Magazine said Kelly Clarkson was a "rocker" but that certainly isn't true.--momo 03:43, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Also note that I said "etc.".--momo 03:52, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

It's also better than no references. Clearly, there is scope for debate in the classification of them. Therefore, we need as many references as we can to try to get some consensus. --Iorek85 04:18, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

There has already been a consensus on this issue. The genre even has a citation. Okay, case closed. Please. The vandals that go and change the genre to Pop are getting annoying. Thanks. --Diehard2k5 | Talk 00:10, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Good work. Now lets defend it. :) --Iorek85 00:52, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

"Vandals"? I guess not wanting to mislead people is vandalism?--momo 22:25, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Not wanting to mislead people is one thing. If you want to do that, then talk about it on the discussion page before hand. Your one narrow-minded view of the situation may not be everyone elses. I say vandal to describe the people that do it continously after being asked not to politely. Or people that just go and change it with out any sort of explanation. It's very irratating to have to go and revert these changes all the time. How would you like it if someone went into the NOFX page and changed the genre to Pop, and having you day after day, week after week, have to revert it? --DieHard2k5 | Talk 22:36, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Well obviously if they kept changing it they must being trying to prove a point, in which case I would ask them why and not just revert it and report them as a vandal.

By the way, NOFX actually is a pop-punk band.--momo 14:35, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

That's what the discussion page is for. Discussing things like that. If I see a change like that, I always revert it, and ask them politely not to do it again without talking on the discussion page first. --DieHard2k5 | Talk 21:25, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

On youtube on an TL behind the scenes of dance dance, pete says ' we wanna put the funk back into emotion rock and roll' (Emo) so pate just called them Emo.

According to me they don't have a particular genre to fit in.Their musical style is a mix of pop-punk,emo and alternative rock.And in the genre section I wrote that (as it was a month ago).

Why dont we just label it as they do and call it "softxcore?" Then we can move on to the much more exciting topic of which bands are also softxcore and which bands arent or if hair styles should be required in the definition Oroneko 13:12, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Isn't it just easier to list genres the band is commonly known as? To most people I know, Fall Out Boy's alternative, pop-punk, emo, and just plain rock. Okay, just a suggestion. --P!@tD Girly! 03:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Drop-D

Shouldn't we mention that Fall out boy use drop-d more than most emo/pop punk bands, which makes them unique. DavidJJJ 09:11, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Dude, Drop-D might be the least unique tuning in modern rock music. Even in the mainstremo and puss-punk genres it's prevalent. LaserTrap 01:58, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, Drop-D is very mainstream these days. And plus, where is your citation for this. What your saying is OR. --DieHard2k5 | Talk 02:48, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merging

I've suggested that all of the individual articles for members get merged into this article, per WP:N and other bands. It's either merge them into here, or delete, in my opinion. Anyone for this? HawkerTyphoon 23:27, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

No. All of the members, at least Pete Wentz, are notable on there own. This has been brought up before, and has been shot down. Pete Wentz has his own clothing line, production company, and imprint on Fueled by Ramen, and all others have veritable information on there own. I'd suggest removing the tag. --Die Hard 2k5 01:32, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

All of the chaps, except perhaps Pete Wentz, aren't really notable for anythinjg except playing in the band. One of them has a line of guitars coming out, but that can be included in another article as a simple sentence. I find a good way to think about it is this:

If you took the band away, would they warrant their own article? Only Pete Wentz touches on this, but even all of his information can be included in a paragraph on this page. HawkerTyphoon 02:07, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Look up above at TEMPLATE. Akrabbim already discussed this issue. One prime reason, is the continous vandalism of the Pete Wentz page would be turned ten-fold onto the Fall Out Boy page itself. I've seen articles for band members that are one lines. You make a point that If you take away Fall Out Boy, the members don't mean anything. Well, their albums have sold 2.2 million sales, they're played on MTV constantly, they've won a ton of awards, and they each have their own ventures. But back to your point, John Bonham was the drummer of Led Zeppelin, that's all he was famous for. Does he not warrant his own article? I'm going to remove the merge tags, since this has been discussed before. I'd suggest looking into the history before bringing back old stuff. Thanks. This was submitted via my school IP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diehard2k5 (talk • contribs)

John Bonham is slighty different to anyone in Fallout Boy, I daresay - he's made a lasting contribution to music since he started. The same cannot be said of Fallout boy, who have been a run-of-the-mill band compared to Led Zeppelin. Vandalism is not a reason to keep articles seperate; we can deal with any extra vandalism when it happens. When we merged Sonny Moore etc into whatever band he is in (I forget), vandalism dropped significantly. You say that "Well, their albums have sold 2.2 million sales, they're played on MTV constantly, they've won a ton of awards, and they each have their own ventures." That's as maybe - but only through fallout boy. None of them have made a contribution by themselves, have they? HawkerTyphoon 19:38, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Moreover, I can't actually see that this has been discussed before, could you sho me where? Thanks, HawkerTyphoon 02:09, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

It was discussed above in TEMPLATE. That was the whole reason for the template. And your description of Fall Out Boy as a "run-of-the-mill band", is completely opinional, and has nothing to do with the actual success of the band as a whole, and as part. Pete Wentz for example, has his own imprint in a major-indie label, Decaydance, and numerous other ventures. The other members of the band also have their own ventures as well. I'm going to say that being in a multi-platinum record selling band would fulfill notability requirements. And as for Sonny Moore, he's from From First to Last, which is a hardcore/emo band. As far as I can see, none of the other bandmates had pages, so that's probably why his page was merged. All the members of Fall Out Boy have quite extensive entries themselves. --Die Hard 2k5 02:14, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Also, something similar to this was discussed in Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Brendon_Urie, which was for members of the band Panic! at the Disco, which isn't quite as successful as Fall Out Boy, yet the members still deserved their own enteries per WP:Bio. Thanks! --Die Hard 2k5 02:17, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

It was hardly a discussion to be honest, was it? Biographical information doesn't belong in this article, that's true, but does it belong in Wikipedia at all? Secondly, I was describing Fall Out Boy as a run-of-the-mill band in relation to Led Zeppellin - John Bonham is well known in all corners of the music industry, soul, jazz, rap and even classical, whereas Pete Wentz is hardly notable at all next to Jon Bonham - which again, I don't think you'll argue with. However, after having read up on WP:MUSIC, I daresay they fit under composers and lyricists - that is, if they have all written or composed ;-). Please be assured that I'm simply trying to stop Wikipedia filling up with fan cruft, not trying to stop musicians from being included! Finally, the band members for From First to Last all had extensive entries, until they were merged for being non-notable! My apologies for intruding, HawkerTyphoon 02:26, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

I can see where you're coming from, and I'm sorry if I somehow took the matter personally. I would say that due to WP:MUSIC, and the precedence set forth in Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Brendon_Urie would be grounds for keeping the information. I can see where your argument comes from about Bonham and Wentz, but the practical point is that they're both from successful bands, which makes them notable in their own lights. Again, sorry if I took this personally. --Die Hard 2k5 23:01, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed Simpsons Comment

Removed "Producers of The Simpsons were afraid they would get sued because they thought the band had the name first. This is false, seeing as The Simpsons have been around for about 20 years, while the band has only been around for about 4 years, tops." because no citation or evidence was provided. It is purely speculation. 198.22.121.110 23:06, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Emo

Is the emo link supposed to go to the homosexuality page? --Shanedidona 12:48, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

No, but dumbass is supposed to redirect to your profile. I'll fix that now. -Prisonnet 02:11, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Is that a trick question? Emo, Homosexuality, they're totally different things..JustinFromAus 09:30, 9 November 2006 (UTC) And Fall Out Boy is neither.70.23.148.224 14:03, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What happened to all the content?

The history pages show this page has had a lot of content compared to its current state. I can't see why all of it was removed. Pests 03:25, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism. Should be all fixed now. Iorek85 03:38, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

what difference does it make weather fall out boy are emo or not and why do people moan about emo's everyone has their own style weather its emo mosher or goth nobody has a right to critisize anybody because no one is perfect everyone is entitled to their own opinion!!

[edit] Fixed Vandalism....Again.

Well I just fixed all the content back to the way it used to be....also someone replaced the name Fall Out Boy with 'Emo F***ers' i fixed that aswell. We need to really protect this page, I'm not a big fall out boy fan, i just felt bad for their page getting vandalised so much...

I agree with you. This page really does get hit hard. :/

LOL rROFL

[edit] Nightmare Before Christmas soundtrack

Fall Out Boy's appearance on the soundrack is not such a huge deal that it deserves a whole paragraph about it here. Perhaps creating another section dedicated to songs they have contributed to like projects would be more appropriate.Spuddy 17 03:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] the external links

i believe that www.falloutboyrock.com.br website must be on the list here presented.

the website is a great brazilian channel and the best in the country about the band, and must be recognized.

if possible, of course.

Fall Out Boy Rock - Brasil

[edit] Error Found In External Link

Will someone please fix the external links... The Crazewire external link should point to http://www.crazewire.com/features/20050412476.php, not http://features/20050412476.php --Mkoko483 23:34, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Fall Out Boy - Pete Wentz Interview on Crazewire

[edit] New single

They released a new single (at least on iTunes) called Carpal Tunnel of Love. Anyone want to start that article? -- Shorty114 04:54, 15 December 2006 (UTC)