Talk:Falkner Square

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[edit] Canning?

I am opening a discussion page, as I have noticed my amendment for Faulkner Square was re edited by Kitchen Knife. The issue I have is there is no such district as Canning. There is a LCC ward, but no district. The area of Falkner Square falls in the city centre edge next to Toxteth. There I leave it as I am not into silly games. Dmcm2008 (talk) 15:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC) Is Georgian Quarter more appropriate? Dmcm2008 (talk) 16:02, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

A search using AltaVista produces http://canning.merseyworld.com/ and http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/canning/index.html http://www.fasthousesaleliverpool.co.uk/property/canning/ http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/Images/tcm21-32475.pdf. There is no Council ward called Canning. I will revert you edits based on this evidence.--Kitchen Knife (talk) 16:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I note you have reverted without considering the evidence. At no point did the article refer to a district. The area is know as Canning to the City Council please reinstate the reference to Canning.--Kitchen Knife (talk) 16:46, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Further to your comments, would Canning Conservation area be a compromise? Despite you saying there is a map provided for Canning, there is no such district..it is a modern 'phrase' for want of a better word, representing a cluster of streets. Alternatively named the Georgian Quarter. I think the definition for Canning is based on it being a conservation zone, like that around Castle Street at the other end of the city. Also, you can say the same for Granby, in Toxteth. Or Breckfield, (based on Breckfield Road) in the cusp of Anfield and Everton. There are other examples but, Canning is a modern term by whom I dont know but it has found its way in to the Council phrasebook, still does not mean it is an area. It is on the edge of Liverpool city centre near Toxteth (and Edge Hill) a mixture of L1 AND L8 postcodes. I will let YOU decide. However it is now on record that I have pointed out Canning is not district. Dmcm2008 (talk) 18:57, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

There is no offical list of districts of Liverpool, only council wards. Some areas refer to old towns. Canning is not a conservation area the Rodney Street conservation area includes part of the area in the council map. That it is used and defined is what makes it useful as a distinct geographical area. Castle street is usually refered to as part of the business district. The city center has other quartes like RopeWalks which are as worthy of inclusion in the list of districts as Canning. The age of the term is irrelevant. Have a look at http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/The_City/City_centre/index.asp.--Kitchen Knife (talk) 19:10, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Ropewalks is another 'trendy' term. It can be argued that there is no such list of districts, I will give you that, I have argued that point myself to Liverpool City Council over one or two places like Vauxhall. However if Canning is not a conservation area, there has been another one used, it might be related to 'handouts' of euro monies - I am not sure. Whichever, the use of Canning is up to residents. Dmcm2008 (talk) 19:16, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I have no strong feelings or any kind of "stake" in or about this dispute, but I'm afraid Dmcm2008 that (quote) "Material challenged or likely to be challenged, and all quotations, must be attributed to a reliable, published source." Remember, "local knowledge" is not a substitution for providing sources. Kitchen Knife has cited his sources. So, I think the question is (Dmcm2008), do you have a source to support your claim(s)? --Jza84 |  Talk  23:35, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

for the record I expected user Jza84 to come to KK rescue, as I seem to have a problem with both of these users whenever I edit...However again for the record I have questioned saying Falkner Square is in Canning Liverpool and not just plainly Liverpool because Canning is not an area and this would leave any neutral thinking Canning was indeed an area. I have offered a compromise in the way it is written including calling it 'The Georgian Quarter'. Unfortunately as Canning has been 'proven' to exist with references I do not have any option but to leave this area alone. I have pointed out already that this area is just a term for a grouping of streets on the edge of Liverpool city centre near Toxteth. Dmcm2008 (talk) 12:23, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Once Liverpool was a made up name. What does it take for there to be an area.--Kitchen Knife (talk) 19:25, 28 March 2008 (UTC)