Talk:Faiz Mohammed Ahmed Al Kandari

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[edit] Replaced transcluded image with inline image - {{npov}} tag as per dispute on Template talk:Combatant Status Review Tribunal trailer image and caption

Replaced transcluded image with inline image - {{npov}} tag as per dispute on Template talk:Combatant Status Review Tribunal trailer image and caption. Geo Swan 14:02, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] sort order

I reverted a recent change to the sort order of the categories.

Trying to shoehorn the Guantanamo captive's names into the "lastname, firstname" format was a mistake for the DoD. I don't think we should emulate it.

When you examine the DoD spellings, ordering, and transliteration of the captive's name, you will see their attempts to figure out that captive's names have been chaotic and incosistent. Made worse by scambing the order of the components of the captive's names. The DoD would render some names with multiple, incompatible versions of the which components are the last name. Some renderings are missing what some have guessed are the last name.

If that isn't sufficient reason to forget about trying to shoehorn the names into the "lastname, firstname" format Afghans and Arabs generally don't inherit last names like we do. Your first name becomes your son's last name. So, Nasrat Khan's son is Hiztullah Yar Nasrat. There is no value on sorting on a "last name", when last names are not inherited.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 20:51, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I think default sort is a mistake for Arabic names

I think default sort is a mistake for individuals with Arabic names.

People with Arabic names don't inherit a surname, like people with an European do. Traditionally the closest thing they have to a "last name" is their father's first name.

And it is absolutely clear to me that it is a mistake to use default sort for the Guantanamo captives -- because the US Department of Defense can't consistently figure out what their names are.

Therefore I just reverted an edit where a well-meaning contributor imposed default sort on this individual.

Please don't impose default sort on these guys without discussing it first.

I see I already made a similar request a couple of months ago...

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 05:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC)