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[edit] Cast

I think the cast list and storylines should be retained. I'm quite happy to tidy them up if needs be, but as Ireland's only English language soap opera, wiki was a much better call for information on Fair City than IMDB.

Is their a particular reason why we must give a comprehensive list of cast. Can the IMDB or something similar off site provide the equivalent? Wikipedia is not a list of indiscriminate information. Djegan 10:49, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
A list of every cast member in a soap opera looks overboard to me, I would expect only the notable ones to be listed. As none of these appear to have any details bar the actor/character name, I'm removing them for the moment. I did consider moving them to the talk page, but as the list is available from imdb, I thought this unnecessary. Feel free to add them back in one at a time, once there is some notable extra info to go with it. If there is no notable info to add, please don't add it back in, as Wikipedia is not a list of indiscriminate information, as above. Regards, MartinRe 18:58, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
The cast list has again grown to horrifying proportions, with a synopsis of the entire story, often repeated, appearing under each character's name. This is excessive, and very poorly written. Magichands 23:36, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
The list is indeed excessive - there's even a template (see below) listing the characters, with several of these characters already having their own articles. I posted a query about this on Wikipedia:Editor assistance/Requests‎, but no feedback - what I suggested was that the approach apparently taken as regards characters from The Archers be used - that is one page - in that case List of characters in The Archers be created, with basic details on each character. Intriguingly, redirects haven't been set up, so typing in a characters namw won't jump to that page automatically. CultureDrone (talk) 11:15, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I agree with CultureDrone about the idea of a page with the main details of the cast. I'd also suggest a part with either a heading on the main page or of major storylines in Fair City year by year. Alanmryan100 (talk) 22:10, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism Section

This section should be deleted. It appears to be a mish-mash of dozens of different opinions ; just an endless gripe list. Wiki at its worst. Complete waffle. This article needs to be reduced to A4 size. Ruthlessly. (Sarah777 02:19, 20 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Suggestions

Here are some suggestions about Fair City - which I want to get feedback on and will then work on if other people agree.

Replacing the "Synopsis" section with a "History" section and a "Major Storylines" section. The Major Storylines could go year by year from 1989 on to 2008, with some of the biggest stories mentioned. This could also possibly be a seperate page if it ends up long enough. As for "History" it needs to be more detailed with when key things happened, like when the show went from 2 episodes to 3 and when the summer break was stopped.

Also a section on the production side of things could be done, with the bit on the sets thats there now included, as well as bits on the theme etc.

A "Criticism/Controversy" section could include the stars in the past who've come out giving out about the poor pay and working conditions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alanmryan100 (talk • contribs) 23:19, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

i think that your ideas make good sense, and would help with the editing process and wikifying process for clarity and style. Howth575 (talk) 22:50, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
how about we use the same structure as the bbc eastenders article to maintain a similar style across the genre? seems like a good idea, and a good framework to work in...Howth575 (talk) 22:56, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
I've just made quite a few changes to the page. Firstly I tried to find information for the ?? areas in the information box, but couldn't find them so I removed any information we didn't have - just to make the page look better. When we do get it, it'll be easy to add in, especially with the template here. I hope that's okay. Also I've added to the setting section and deleted anything that was not referenced or not related to the characters section. I thought that part of the article was far too long, and contained a lot more criticism than details on the characters. I've removed some of the sections that you added to make the article similiar to the EE page, just because I didn't feel they were needed. For example Filming can easily go into the Production section. I added to the Social Realism part of the article as well and removed the Suburban Buildings part of the article as I did not feel it was relevant. It'd be great if you could give me some feedback on what you think of the changes, as they are very much just a start on the article. Alanmryan100 (talk) 15:42, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Appendices

The Fair City Character Template

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Fair City
Current characters

Ali Foley | Angela O'Connell | Anthony Brady | Anthony Farrell | Barry O'Hanlon | Bela Doyle | Brendan Daly | Carol Meehan | Charlie Kelly | Christy Phelan | Cleo Cullen | Damien Halpin | Deirdre Burke | Dermot Fahey | Dolores Molloy | Dominic Kavanagh | Fiona Pigott | Frances McGuigan | Geraldine Fahey | Gina Cassidy | Heather Daly | James Pigott | Jimmy Doyle | Jo Fahey | Joshua Udenze | June Pearson | Keith McGrath | Ken Fahey | Kylie Kavanagh | Lana Dowling | Leo Dowling | Mags Kelly | Malachy Costello | Mark Halpin | Mike Gleeson | Mick O'Shea | Mondo O'Connell | Miles Byrne | Niamh Cassidy | Nina Udenze | Orla Kirwan | Olga Carney | Paul Brennan | Ray O'Connell | Renee Phelan | Rita Doyle | Robin Doyle | Sarah O'Leary | Sholeh Tenniz | Sean Cassidy | Sean McNab | Seamus Mannion | Seamus McAleer | Sergei Borodin | Suzanne Halpin | Sylvester Garrigan | Terry Kelly | Tim Carney | TJ Kelly | Tracy Kavanagh | Una Norris | Ursula Cruise
Past characters

Billy Meehan | Chris Aherne | Dan Force | Darren Doyle | Donal Maher | Eunice Phelan | Farrah Phelan | Floyd Phelan | Frank Monaghan | Gabriel Udenze | Hannah Finnegan | Harry Molloy | Helen Doyle | Jenny Byrne | Kay Costello | Kira Cassidy | Laura Halpin | Lorcan Foley | Lorraine Doyle | Louise Doyle | Marty Halpin | Morgan Dalton | Nicola Prendergast | Pascal Mulvey | Pauline Fitzpatrick]] | Pete Flannagan | Philippa Prendergast | Richard Ashton | Ross O'Rourke | Shay Hourlihan | Shelly O'Connor | Sorcha Byrne | Stephen McCoy | Tess Halpin | William Russell | Yvoone Gleeson

The page layout suggestions by Howth575.

[edit] Setting

[edit] Characters

[edit] Production

[edit] Production team

[edit] Filming

[edit] Social realism

[edit] History

[edit] Scheduling

[edit] International screenings

[edit] Popularity and viewership

[edit] Critique

[edit] Awards

[edit] In popular culture

[edit] Further reading

[edit] References

[edit] External links

The new infobox, copied from the Eastenders one and created by Howth575 with the old one below

Fair City
Genre Soap opera
Created by Margaret Gleason
Starring Present Cast
Theme music composer  ??
Opening theme  ??
Country of origin Ireland
Language(s) English
No. of episodes  ??
Production
Executive
producer(s)		  ??
Location(s)  ??
Camera setup  ??
Running time 25 mins.
Broadcast
Original channel RTÉ One
Picture format 576i
4:3 (1989-??)
16:9 (??-Present)
Original run September 18, 1989 – present
External links
Official website
IMDb profile
TV.com summary


Fair City
Format Soap opera
Created by Margaret Gleason
Starring See current cast
Country of origin Ireland
Language(s) English
Production
Producer(s) Radio Telefís Éireann
Running time 25 minutes
Broadcast
Original channel RTÉ One
Original run September 18, 1989 – Present