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[edit] Veridisc 'rumoured' to have created FairPlay

For some reason, there are a bunch of references to Veridisc's FairPlay technology as 'possibly' having been made by them. If you go to their website, there are about a billion mentions of FairPlay everywhere you look. Maybe this was true in the past, but definitely not now, so I've scrubbed the ambiguousness of these claims.

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[edit] Re-encoding AAC

It has been suggested on the article page that re-encoding from a CD using AAC will yield a file with the same sound quality as the original. I've googled around on this and found nothing to suggest this is the case. On the contrary:

http://hymn-project.org/jhymndoc/jhymn_faq.php#rip

If anyone feels the need to revert my edit, please cite something beyond wild fantasy or "AAC is full quality, duh :-)"

Cheers, Chris 12:03, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

I back you up 100% on this, whoever wrote that is deluded or misinformed. I think your changes are fine. Graham 00:19, 16 September 2005 (UTC)


I'm one can avoid most of the loss of quality on reencoding by using a higher bit rate than the original file (assuming the same quality of encoder). But I don't see any mention of what bitrates ipods support (if there is any limitations).

[edit] Video FairPlay

This article should be updated with information regarding the new FairPlay for video.

[edit] PlayFair should be its own article

The PlayFair disambig page wikilinks to the FairPlay article which can be confusing, though there is a blurb on PlayFair at the bottom of FairPlay. In addition to the synopsis there I think PlayFair should get its own article. What do people think? zen master T 00:33, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Copying to CD and the DMCA

If it is being done with a utility provided by Apple then there is no circumvention.

But is then reconverting it to a non-CD, non-DRMed copy then circumventing it? It may sound absurd to say "yes", but I'd almost think that there's a case to be made there. Phil Urich 10:00, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
No. There's no case to be made, because the DRM has been removed in the first step, using a “device” provided by the vendor. Ajhoughton (talk) 17:44, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Harmony

I think this is a rather one-sided treatment, it makes it sound like Real had no popular support for their scheme when this wasn't true.

Regardless of what *some* people thought of the petition, others mocked Apple for their actions. There was an article in a well known paper (was it the WSJ? I forget) in which the author pointed out that Real was not "breaking into" anything except maybe the Jobsian platonic ideal of the iPod.

If u burn an AAC to a stadnard audio CD can u repid into MP3? Thats what I do w/ my real audio files, I have the free real palyer which doesnt let u convert, but I can burn to a CD and then rip the track into a better audio format! RealG187 18:14, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, you can. Ajhoughton (talk) 17:45, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] VLC and FairPlay protected files?

This article claims that VLC can play iTunes protected files, while trying it on my own computer yeilds no results. I also haven't seen any mention of this on the VLC website. Any reference? - Josh 00:07, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cracking???

I believe the term "cracking" is inaccurate to describe a reverse-engineering process. The latter is perfectly legal, unlike the former. In my opinion, the BBC article cited as source is inaccurate itself. 25 October, GMT+1 20.04

[edit] Cracking expanded

I, and perhaps others as well, would like to know to get around these DRM's (or if its not possible, you could say so, too). But has anyone ever assessed whether the DRM *might* be unduly restricting other legal uses of the files? - Josh