Talk:Fainting goat
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[edit] duplicate video clip
is anyone aware that the video links in this article are virtually identical? one of them just has a longer intro than the other. i think the shorter one should just be deleted. but perhaps someone else has something to say about this.
I just typed up a paper on the myotonic goat and added the last paragraph of my paper here. I hope it helps. If anybody is more eloquent than I, feel free to change it. Just make sure you do not change any of the info I added.
Also someone shoudl redirect "myotonic goat" to this page since I have no clue how to do it.
Thanks a lot, -Ryan
- I've added the redirect, thanks for pointing that out. —Chowbok 15:23, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
- I added some information specific to the breed as a livestock animal including some uses for this wonderfull breed of goat. I also added a link to the American Livestock Breeds Conservancy since they list various breeds that are threatened and the Fainting goat is listed as such.
- Thank you Phidauex for adding the reference. I added a photo as well. --Redleg 14:03, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
- Nice photo! Cute goats. I'd love to get a few myself... Phidauex 15:18, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
That looks much better like that, I am glad you are looking over it :). I just started, I should probably look at the formatting of other documents and see what is standard before I jump in and make too much of a mess. --Redleg 16:05, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Urban legend?
Is this article true? Because the article seems to be based on the video, and it could easily be a joke.
Nope, it is absulutely true. Follow the links to faintinggoat.com and the the ALBC at http://www.albc-usa.org/. I raise these goats and they are really funny. As they age, they tend to faint less, but the younger ones do often. I like them because they are gentle and the demand for chevon is growing rapidly. If you look at the breeders section of faintinggoat.com, you can contact a breeder close to you and visit them in person - goat people in general love to show off their goats :) Redleg 02:12, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Flatulence when fainting?
I removed this sentence that was the second one in the article: "This causes the goat to emit a miasma that is smelly in nature." I couldn't verify that they emit gas when fainting, and miasma isn't the correct word. Spalding 13:34, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
As a breeder of these goats, I have never witnessed one emit gas when fainting. This is just anecdotal, but that claim does not seem likely to me to be true.
[edit] fat_people.jpg
I saw that there were incorrectly written HTML tags for a picture at the beginning of this article so I edited the page and fixed the code and then decided to see what the picture was supposed to be. Needless to say it was some stupid vandalism and I removed it.
[edit] Myotonic vs. Fainting?
Should this page be titled Myotonic goat, with a redirect from Fainting goat, instead? Even though "fainting goat" is what they are generally called, the breed name is Myotonic. Traviswertz 09:07, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
- The association that maintains the breed standard is named "International Fainting Goat Association", so I'm pretty sure that the title is correct. Merenta 18:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Regarding the History...
In my research on the Myotonic goat, I happened to fall upon a site containing information regarding the history of the breed that seems to differ from the claims of Wikipedia's article. While I know that both pieces can be seen as legends and and are nearly impossible to positively corroborate, this article by the International Fainting Goat Association seems to elaborate a little more on the story of the Fainting Goat Man (he's referred to as "Tinsley" in the link) from Nova Scotia.
Both accounts take place in Marshall County, so I figure they may be identical to one another, though the site I read seems to suggest a different buyer of the goats and quite a date separate from the one mentioned in this article. Here's the link: "Tennessee Fainting Goats"
[edit] Animal Protection aspect
Am I the only one who thinks that purposefully selecting animals for a genetic defect is ethically wrong? --84.74.135.110 19:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
- Nope. Someone should add a statement to that effect to the article. --130.92.9.55 14:33, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
This addition can be added, but the myotonia is not simply amusing or a novelty. Since they are a meat animal, the trait increases their muscling, which causes more meat per carcass to be produced. This trait also aids in containing them as they are unable to challenge fences as roughly as Boers (the other meat breed I am familiar with, I would assume other breeds challenge fences just as vigorously as Boers). If you find references to question the ethics of raising this unique American breed, be sure to include the flip side arguments as well.
