Talk:Failure of imagination

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<quote> Critics of the Bush administration might easily argue that we are somehow being to believe that there is such a poverty of imagination in this country that we will stop asking questions and simply blindly vote for Bush in November. Perhaps, because of the abundance of tabloid type conspiracy theories that propagate over the Internet, by word of mouth, or in the media, most people should be rightly skeptical of any supposed numerlogic modus operandi. In the state of Missouri, they have a saying "Show Me." When the major system for translating phrases into numbers, or rather for memorizing numbers is applied to the phrase "Show Me", one obtains the number 63, which by a remarkable coincidence yields the flight number of the so called shoe bomber. In effect, ever since the so called shoe bomber incident, people have been asked by airport inspectors to "show me your shoes." </quote>


Three problems: 1. rather very NPOV, 2. there's two seperate ideas there that need to be seperated, 3. this really flies straight out of left field compared to the earlier points raised on the page - should have a better connection. Krupo 04:36, Aug 27, 2004 (UTC)

Bushco didn't invent the usage:

"The deepest failures identified in the Mersey Report (on the sinking of the Titanic) are, as so often in disaster inquiries, failures of imagination," said Prof McLean. ("Aberfan and Titanic twin tragedies" Western Mail 1998 Oct 21)[1]

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[edit] Vote for Deletion

This article survived a Vote for Deletion. The discussion can be found here. -Splash 00:43, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pulling this out of the "Failure" Category

The article may have survived the VfD, but it has nothing to do with engineering or failure analysis. This is rather a pity, as actual generalized failures of imagination are a perfectly valid topic for engineering failure analysis, but apparently this article title is not to be used for that... Georgewilliamherbert 06:19, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] More usages of this term

"Failure of imagination" also shows up twice in an episode of Joan of Arcadia. I rather liked the usage and have incorporated it into how I look at failures of all sorts. BipolarBear 13:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Also Franz Kafka would appear to be the first: "War is a monstrous failure of imagination." BipolarBear 14:17, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Except it appears Kafka may have never said that; at least, I can't find reference to the quote in google books (except for an uncited quote in a book on parenting), and when I search the Kafka Project I get nothing, even trying in German for words like "Phantasie" (imagination), "Krieg" (war), and "Ausfall" (failure). But I don't read German so perhaps someone else can direct me to the proper origin of this quote, if it is for real? csloat 22:53, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Examples from fiction?

The Tom Clancy novel Debt of Honor includes specifically the use of a passenger plane to attack the Capitol Building. This and many other highack scenarios in fiction that were ignored could show that "failure of imagination" included "failure to access other people's imagination." Is there a link to fictional scenarios that predate 9-11 with just the same scenarios involved? CodeCarpenter 23:11, 26 March 2007 (UTC)