Talk:Factual relativism

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This article was nominated for deletion in the past. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

The POV of this article is quite clear, and the mention of Conservapedia under the external links section (which I removed) is the clincher. One suggestion I have is that we find some more "balanced" examples of factual relativism in popular culture. StaticElectric 07:11, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

If the term is used mainly by the left to criticize the right, then that may not be possible. That issue is independent of how encyclopedic the topic is, however. Comesincolors 18:49, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request for comment

See above talk page comment. I do not feel that this article is NPOV, but unsure of what improvements to make or whether the article could be salvaged, I put a request for NPOV collaboration on the talk page. I also nominated the article to be checked for neutrality, but nobody ever checked it. StaticElectric 16:53, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't see NPOV problems as much as VER problems. If the term has been coined by and is used by a particular slice of the political spectrum, so be it. What the article really needs is more sources explaining the term. Comesincolors 18:49, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

There are 4 referenced articles by different writers using the term that I have found. I agree that the existing article violates NPOV. It seems that notability is also marginal. Do people think that the non-POV section of the article should be merged into one of the existing relativism articles, this is only a form of cognitive relativism after all, with a redirect? If not, the POV aspect of the article should be changed. I am happy to do this, and ensure proper referencing if people wish. Anarchia 04:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Came here from the RfC page. Anarchia would seem to be right that the notability is marginal. I suggest putting the article up for deletion. Itsmejudith 07:01, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm an outsider with no particular knowledge of the subject. My impressions from reading the article were (1) The description in the intro did not sufficiently convey to me what the topic is about. I'd suggest more detail and a lower-brow explanation. (2) The article conveyed an impression that factual relativism is bad. It seemed to imply that it's a tool of pseudoscientists and that there's something subversive about it without explaining why. I didn't see any material or opinion from supporters of the perspective. For this reason, I was left with the impression that this article is not WP:NPOV in the way it describes the subject. (3) There was only one source that was presented as describing the topic, the other sources were texts containing the term and presumably serving as examples of its use. Although I didn't check the main source, the tone of the article varied sufficiently that I suspect some of the content may not come from the source cited and may be WP:OR. --Shirahadasha 03:15, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

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