Talk:Face fault

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[edit] Hash mark

I'm quite curious about the little hash mark thing one often sees in anime/manga. I guess that's what the author was referring to here:

  • Pulsating crossed forehead veins: indicates anger, or rage.

Does anyone know what the symbol itself is called? A Japanese friend said something like "four corners," but that's not necessarily reliable.

Also, in my experience, it has other symbolic uses besides representing simple anger. This should be expanded upon in a separate article, when more information is available.

For those of you who are wondering, the symbol I'm talking about looks like this: # except the corners are not connected. In ASCII art, it would look like this:

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I hope that shows up OK for everyone...

Yes it shows up right and it indicates anger, and to my knowledge, anger only. Those are veins, sometimes even seen poping and blood bursting out. In Japanese I have no idea what it is called but in Chinese, there is actually a 4 character proverb stating about this kind of veins: 青筋暴現 (a proverb stating someone is very angry until the point where one's veins on their forehead clearly shows up) and I think this is somehow passed to Japan in the early ages and was adorted like many other Chinese proverbs. MythSearcher 07:06, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
From what I can see on the Japanese wiki, this is called a "rage mark" (怒りマーク Ikari MA-KU?). Similarly, the sweatdrop is called "sweat mark" (汗マーク ase MA-KU?). Four corners could be an acceptable made up or slang term, IMO. Liashi 17:55, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Fault"?

I believe the correct term is "face vault". Starlightmusic 04:09, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't think so. I could be wrong, though. — Phantasy Phanatik | talk | contribs 01:44, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
The thing is, the word "fault" really doesn't make sense in relation to the action of a character pitching face-forward (the action most commonly associated with the term). "Fault" can mean blunder, but "vault" means to dive, bounce or leap, so "facevaulting" = diving onto one's face. I've seen both "face fault" and "face vault" used to describe this, and can only attribute the widespread usage of the former to someone's lousy spelling habits. Starlightmusic 08:12, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures

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Including screenshots of anime charicters with these expressions wouldn't be fair-use would they? I think we would need someone to draw them. Anyone agree/disagree?-Ravedave 04:04, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

They could be fair use, since catgirl and meganekko use screenshots in those articles for the same reasons. _dk 05:35, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Origin of term?

Despite being an anime fan nearly my entire life, I've only heard the term used fairly recently (as in within the last few years) - and I must say, I don't entirely favor the term. Where exactly did it come from? The S 03:14, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I've always understood that the term comes from hacker culture (a broad intersection with anime fandom) as an analogy to segfault, i.e. an unexpected change for the worse. I'm going to do some research to see if I can come up with any support for that. Delius1967 17:59, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Applications

So, do Face Faults apply to anime? Yes, it's a simple question. KyuuA4 17:06, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Page title

Is 'face fault' really the right title for this page? It looks to be more of a listing of anime cliches, traditions and techniques. Perhaps renaming it to to something like 'Visual gags in anime' would be more appropriate. 58.7.137.174 18:44, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Potential merge?

Many of the entries listed here are also listed on Manga iconography. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 150.101.121.216 (talk) 11:52, 20 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] image

I think it would be nice if the image in the article showed the "normal" look of the character along with the face faults.

-- trlkly 00:06, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Not to comment on the skills of the artist who drew the picture in the article, I'll sign up for an account and draw a new improved one incorporating some of the things suggested. Possibly tonight, since I have nothing better to do.

tychoa at hotmail.com 12:02, 12 June 2007 GMT