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This article was listed on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion and the consensus was keep: see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Face dancers

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I actually don't think that this deserves deletion. Certainly some touching up and Wikifying, but if there are allowed details about races and technology from Star Wars, Star Trek or Harry Potter, I see no reason why the Dune saga should be excluded.--BakerQ 20:19, Sep 3, 2004 (UTC)

I agree. This definitely isn't a candidate for speedy deletion. It may need editing, or merging with a more general article, but it's valid info. --Aqua 20:23, Sep 3, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Face Dancers from the Scattering

Is it strongly hinted during Chapterhouse:Dune, that the face dancers of the Scattering had evolved beyond control of the masters of the Bene Tleilax, and had achieved their own personalities. It is also suggested that they face dancers may be the "handlers" of the Futars, and the principle opponents of the Honored Matres in the Scattering, and that they were responsible for driving the Honored Matres back to the Imperium. While I may not have my facts entirely straight, shouldn't some of this history be included in the article?

[edit] Whistling

Does anyone know specifically where in Frank Herbert's original series he references Face Dancer control via whistling?

From the article: They can be controlled by being forced into a hypnotic state with some predefined sound (often a specific whistling noise).

I believe the first reference to whistling commands may be in Chapterhouse, when Scytale sees an opportunity to control/influence the Idaho ghola and thus effect his escape from the Bene Gesserit when he thinks:

Somehow, I must contrive it that Idaho and I meet intimately. There's always the whistling language we impress on every ghola.

BUT, this relates to gholas. And of course as early as Messiah it's revealed that the Tleilaxu control gholas with words and such (Hayt), but ... In any case, this is up for discussion in the Daniel and Marty article, and I'd like to add a reference here as well if we can find one. TAnthony 05:55, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Face Dancers" in Chinese culture

Does anybody realize that "Face Dancers" refers to a traditional Chinese performing art? The performer will use slight-of-hand to remove a series of masks with a flourish of a sleeve or cape, finally revealing the face. Herbert must have known about this.Dawud (talk) 15:12, 18 January 2008 (UTC)