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[edit] Hampstead Heathens vs. Barnes
I have the four volume set of books "Association Football" published by Caxton Press in 1960. It gives the result of the second round match between Hampstead Heathens and Barnes as a 2-0 win for Hampstead and no mention of a replay. This seems to be at odds with various other websites that I have checked. I presume that this is an error in this book. Jooler 10:46, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] R Engineers v Hampstead Heathens
I have reverted this to a 3-0 scoreline. All my major printed sources (AFS Book on F.A. Cup 1871-1881, Mike Collett's Complete Record of the F.A. Cup and two version of Tony Brown's ultimate F.A. Cup results book) all list it as 3-0 - fchd 19:04, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm sure you're right but there does appear to be some discrepencies, and so I think it worth further investigation.
[edit] 3-0
- I assume http://www.fchd.info is your site and that gives 3-0.
- http://www.soccerbase.com/cup2.sd?competitionid=58 gives 3-0.
- http://www.the-english-football-archive.com/domestic_competitions/results/fa_cup/1872.htm gives 3-0.
- http://www.soccer.mistral.co.uk/books/kw3.pdf gives 3-0, and also gives extra information that is not seen elsewhere including initials of all of the RE team for the final, Is this PDF a Tony Brown book?
[edit] 2-0
- The above book gives the score as 2-0.
- http://www.footballsite.co.uk/Statistics/LeagueTables/Season1871-72/F.A.Cup1871-72.html gives 2-0.
- RSSSF give the score as 2-0 at http://www.rsssf.com/tablese/engcup1872.html.
- This site http://www.fa-cupfinals.co.uk/1872.html gives 2-0, but it also gives Hampstead Heathens vs Barnes as 2-0 no mention of a replay, so probably out of the book above.
- http://www.rpfc.co.uk/history.htm gives 2-0.
- http://www.uk1871census.com/news.htm gives 2-0.
- http://www.rsssf.com/rssbest/fa1.html gives 2-0, but this time it also gives Hampstead vs Barnes as 2-0 again. So RSSSF disagreeing with itself, at least about the Barnes game.
You would think that the FA would put up the socres on their pages but they don't. Jooler 21:35, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Another bloody discrepency
- This Caxton book gives Royal Engineers vs Hitchen as 3-1.
- http://www.rsssf.com/rssbest/fa1.html gives 3-1.
- http://www.fa-cupfinals.co.uk/1872.html gived 3-1.
- http://www.fchd.info gives 5-0.
- http://www.soccerbase.com/cup2.sd?competitionid=58 gives 5-0.
- http://www.the-english-football-archive.com/domestic_competitions/results/fa_cup/1872.htm gives 5-0.
- http://www.soccer.mistral.co.uk/books/kw3.pdf gives 5-0.
- http://www.footballsite.co.uk/Statistics/LeagueTables/Season1871-72/F.A.Cup1871-72.html gives 5-0.
- http://www.rsssf.com/tablese/engcup1872.html gives 5-0.
- http://www.rpfc.co.uk/history.htm - gives 5-0.
- http://www.uk1871census.com/news.htm - not shown.
So probably the same original source (probably this very Caxton Press book) accounts for the 3-1 result for Royal Engineers vs Hitchen and thus gives us the occurences of the R Engineers v Hampstead Heathens result showing as 3-0 and Hampstead Heathens vs Barnes as 2-0. But that still leaves 4 sites (discounting http://www.uk1871census.com/news.htm which doesn't inclde these two socres) which show 3-0 for R Engineers v Hampstead Heathens including http://www.rsssf.com/tablese/engcup1872.html which one would hope would have got right. Jooler 23:10, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
You don't happen to have a copy of "Football And The Men Who Made It?" from 1906 do you? I know that User:Mikedash does. Jooler 23:13, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
