Talk:F. Gwynplaine MacIntyre

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[edit] FGM IMDb reviewer?

Someone using this name has reviewed 1000+ movies on IMDb[1] (I think I've seen a second account there using the name too). A number of the reviews are of movies widely believed to be lost. The claims were met with suspicion on the usenet group alt.movies.silent[2] I don't know what to make of it all myself. Шизомби 04:36, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Recently posted on alt.movies.silent (not by me) : "If you Google a lengthy discussion about Mr. McIntyre's claims that occurred on this newsgroup a couple of years ago, the consensus is that his tales of being squired around the world (Moviola in tow) to acquire prints for this "elusive collector" is the work of a fantasist (to use a nice word) with plenty of time on his hands. Which doesn't mean that he has never seen an an actual movie. It just means that everything he writes as reportage is suspect." Saxophobia 16:58, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

hmm also this:

http://lmwnow.blogspot.com/2007/04/intriguing-biographies-on-wikipedia.html

I've stubed the article untill we have the time to get to the bottem of this.Geni 19:40, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, this will have to be an anonymous edit - but I am the man behind the blog-article... Is it me or is the delightful mr Macintyre now using this page to pimp his wares on Amazon? Go Gwyn, go! - Edwin

I've done some cleaning up. Amazon links violate WP:EL and really aren't that helpful, Also the Tom Swift link was to a mirror of the Wikipedia entry which is circular and doesn't help prove anything. Instead I have updated a lot of links to point at the ISFDB or other better sources. I also started a bibliography section (as ISBNs are ugly dropped into the main body and with too much detial, "and, and, and" the main body gets too "listy"). There are also facts that need checking. (Emperor 14:24, 28 July 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Not "self-written", interview genuine

This is replying to the person above who accuses FGMacIntyre of "self-hagiography" and a "shameless" inaccuracy. MacIntyre did not write his own Wikipedia entry: _I_ did. I attended his writing course at 2Kon (Glasgow, 2000). MacIntyre gave me some solid info on how to break into professional publishing, and soon afterward I made my first pro sale. I asked FGMacIntyre for a list of his publication credits, and I used that as the basis for his Wikipedia entry without his knowledge. When I met MacIntyre again later at the NASFiC, I showed him a printout of his Wikipedia bio. He asked me to delete about half the information, but didn't say why.

The NYTimes _did_ interview MacIntyre, referring to a letter he wrote in their July 24, 2005 issue. (I had to look up that date.) Did anybody here ever write a letter to the New York Times? They have a fact-checking department that's so thorough it even verifies letters to the editor. You have to include a phone number with your letter, or they won't consider publishing it. FGMacIntyre wrote a letter to the NYTimes that they wanted to publish, but first they wanted more information. Someone from their Editorial department phoned him and asked him questions for 27 minutes so they could verify what was in his letter. MacIntyre showed me his phone logs, which he saves -- I verified the following: (1) in early July 2005 he received a lengthy phone call from the New York Times, (2) the phone call came from their Editorial department, not the Circulation department (so they weren't phoning him to sell him a subscription). Now if the New York Times phones somebody and asks him questions for 27 minutes I would definitely describe that as an "interview". But if you think there's something "shameless" here please take notice that I wrote FGMacIntyre's Wikipedia entry without his knowledge until afterward. Any misstatement is my error, not his decision. My name is Steven Davies and I will always be thankful to Mr. MacIntyre for helping me get published.Evensteven99 (talk) 08:53, 29 March 2008 (UTC)