Talk:F-Zero X

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[edit] Descriptions of Courses

The courses need information. --PJ Pete

That does not mean degrading over half the article in the process.[1] FullMetal Falcon 13:43, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, people that have never played F-Zero X and read this article need to read information about the courses, so they'll learn. There will need to be a wikitable that has some objects such as Jump Plate and Dash Plate and for each course there should be a number of how many there are, and if there's 0 of them on any course, type in "None" instead of the number, 0. --PJ Pete
That's why there's strategy guides. However, the X pilot profiles can use some rewording. FullMetal Falcon 17:46, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Body, Boost, and Grip

To tell the difference in Body, Boost, and Grip, people will learn this way. For the Body or Weight, Body A: the machine is super-heavy in the mass of weight, Body B: the machine is just heavy in the mass of weight, Body C: the machine is average in the mass of weight, Body D: the machine is just light in the mass of weight, Body E: the machine is super-light in the mass of weight. For the Boost or Speed-Up, Boost A: the machine has a super-fast boost, Boost B: the machine's boost is fast, Boost C: the machine's boost is not very fast, Boost D: the machine's boost is slow, Boost E: the machine's boost is slower than other's. For the Grip or Handling, Grip A: the machine has very good handling, Grip B: the machine has good handling, Grip C: the machine has average handling, Grip D: the machine can't turn very well, Grip E: the machine has the worst handling. --PJ Pete

This is with all F-Zero games, so its already stated under F-Zero (series). btw, please replace/rewrite "you" in the article with "the player" or something, that's something not used in any encyclopedia. FullMetal Falcon 01:51, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia section

Would it be necessary to have a trivia section? You can tell by what mistakes were made, or the difference between this game and the sequels that do some retcons on characters (eg. Jody Summer was originally given the age of 24, but her age has been retconned and she is now 25). --PJ Pete

It is never necessary to have one since they should not exist in the first place! FMF|contact 22:45, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA nom on hold

  • You should wlink the publisher (IGN etc.) in refs.
  • "The title can be used with a Rumble Pak" - you mean "the game"?
  • There's quite a lot of gamecruft; is it all necessary?
  • "The game is noteworthy for its fast gameplay, track design, abundance of courses and vehicles and keeping a high framerate even though there can be up to 30 racers on screen at the same time." - We don't need to be convincing the reader that the game is noteworthy....
  • It looks odd that only ref 13 contains a quote...
  • "The first course in the Joker Cup..." - paragraph unsourced
  • "will change to an alt-rock remaster" - say alternative rock please
  • "utilized outside of Japan[6] due to the" - need a comma before the ref
  • You could seriously expand the reception section.

— Dihydrogen Monoxide 02:27, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

wlink the publisher, started, but why isn't that automatic within all/some of those citation templates if its necessary? Also, does the gamecruft mostly come from the unlocking of this and that underneath the "circuits" section or is it gameplay in general along with the Disk drive expansion section? « ₣ullMetal ₣alcon » 04:10, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
It's not automatic because not all publishers have articles...sites like IGN do, but others (like ref 14 - World of Video Games) don't.
The info about unlocking stuff in the circuits section isn't really necessary. I just looked at my FA and realised there's quite a lot of gameplay info there too...
I think you could merge and trim the 3rd, 4th, and 5th gameplay paragraphs. Trim the 1st and 2nd and you'll probably be OK.
The disk drive stuff should be trimmed (to one paragraph probably, and with no image) in favour of F-Zero X Expansion Kit. Also may wish to move it to the gameplay area
— Dihydrogen Monoxide 01:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
As far as gameplay is concerned, this article is pretty much a modified copy-paste version of F-Zero GX. This article is purposely structured with Majora's Mask in mind, its current form and when it was reviewed. That's the reason why all that DD stuff is there in two paragraphs. In fact, I was thinking of possibly redirecting the Expansion Kit article since it is mostly only listing and explaining with elaborate detail everything F-Zero X has in a couple sentences. « ₣ullMetal ₣alcon » 23:22, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Sounds like a plan. I'll pass it in the meantime. — Dihydrogen Monoxide 05:25, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:VG Assessment

I'm happy overall, but the article is not up to A-class yet. Some points:

  • Wikilink the lead.
  • Remove excessive detail from the first paragraph of the lead (Rumble Pak, expansion..). Move this information to the body.
  • Rewrite the third paragraph to fit WP:LS and see also the feature in this month's VG newsletter.
  • The first paragraph of Gameplay is a bit in universe.
  • The whole Gameplay section needs more wikilinks.
  • Source 15 is questionable. If a better source can be found, that would be good.
  • The section structure is uncommon, for that, and in general, for the prose too, see the recent guide in User:Guyinblack25/Sandbox.
  • Do not use the word "utilize" (common in the article). There's other prose problems you might want a copy editor to take a look at.

Once you've addressed the above, ask for a re-assessment.

User:Krator (t c) 19:36, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Concerns regarding contributions

If you remember last year, you tried to take major control of this article and you even deleted my comment from last year. I'm not happy in how you handle this situation. You maybe in charge of the article but the truth is everyone else is too. If you continue to delete comments like this and try to avert what I'm trying to add then you need to learn that anyone can edit and if there's a vandalism, it can be easily dealt with. Keep in mind I won't be editing this article at this point because I don't have any ideas at this time. Don't delete this comment or it will vandalism if you do. Johnnyauau2000 (talk) 01:38, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

I hope so 'cause I did last year add a recent reception yet I get the impression that someone is obsessed with this article. I already learnt my lesson not to get personal so I like to close this argument and hope Fullmetal Falcon don't go beyond in what is a good editor. Sorry about it but you know better now that it's 2008 and I expect something new out of this. Johnnyauau2000 (talk) 13:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)