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[edit] Upper Heyford

Sad to see no mention of RAF Upper Heyford Voodoo's - a common sight in the 60s at Open House airshows and over my house. See: "RF-101Cs were first assigned to Europe during the spring of 1958 when the 66th Tactical Reconnaissance Wing (32nd and 38th TRS) at Laon AB in France converted from RF-84Fs. In May of 1958, the 17th and 18th TRS based at Shaw AFB joined the 66th TRW at Laon. By the end of 1958, 30 RF-101Cs were based overseas. They were stationed at Nouasseur AFB in Morocco and at the Laon and Phalsbourg air bases in France. The 38th TRS moved to Ramstein AB in Germany when Laon grew short of ramp space and facilities. The entire wing moved to RAF Upper Heyford in England. The 66th TRW was inactivated on April 1, 1970.

Source: http://www.icdc.com/~mr_bill/F101info6.html

Royzee 18:29, 22 February 2007 (UTC) Feb 20 07

[edit] Maximum speed

I have two separate sources which quote the max speed of the F-101A/C as Mach 1.51, and of the B/F as Mach 1.63. These are a far cry from Mach 2.-whatever. My instinct is to label such figues as sneaky vandalism. And I sincerley doubt there's a verifable source anyway to back up the claim (even one from the DIscovery Channel!) - BillCJ 03:10, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

My sources say Mach 1.51 at 35,000 for F/RF-101A/C and Mach 1.65 at 35,000 ft for the F-101B/F (Knaack). The Voodoo was not area-ruled and had the same thrust/weight ratio as the much more aerodynamically refined F-4. Furthermore, the J57 engines were not capable of handling Mach 2 airflow (the variable compressor vane innovation was introduced on the J79) making all claims of Mach 2 performance highly dubious. - Emt147 Burninate! 04:14, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
In 1957, GE removed the J57's from the first F-101A and installed two J79's. According to the project pilot for the program, the airplane's acceleration was orders of magnitude better, but top speed was still limited by the airframe itself, and not much better than advertised officially.N747ge (talk) 22:04, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
This is my first time editing a page. I was also skeptical of the max speeds listed and changed them accordingly. As originally built, the F-101A was capable of a maximum speed of Mach 1.60 at 35 Kft. However, intake modifications needed to alleviate compressor stalls at increased angle-of-attack resulted in a slight increase in drag, and a decrease in top speed to Mach 1.52. (Prototypes have a very short intake ramp and a sharp, flat bottom edge to the intake. Production F-101s have a longer intake ramp and a curled bottom "lip" to the intake.) The F-101B was "red-lined" at Mach 1.75, but I have an acquaitnace who was a RIO for 4 years in the F-101B who went to Mach 1.83 and was still accelerating when the pilot decided to throttle back! Source for the F-101A is "Voodoo" by Paul Stevens, for the F-101B: Paul Allin, formerly of the 60th FIS. I am still working out how to properly footnote things so any advice or comments will be greatly appreciated!Bigron427 (talk) 07:40, 4 January 2008 (UTC)bigron427

[edit] Another Museum Static Display

I just saw an F101 on static display at Wings Over The Rockies Musuem in Denver CO USA. This one is not listed in the article.

Not sure if this is a new A/C or was loaned from another facility.

See Survivors List, and footnote no. 5. The Voodoo is part of the Museum's regular military aircraft inventory, part of the USAF loan program: aicraft, armament, artifacts, books, photos, and Eisenhower Collection. LanceBarber 21:35, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
I added a reference to the F-101 on display at the Aerspace Museum of California (formerly McClellan Aviation Museum). I have been in charge of the F-101B in the collection, 57-427, for the past 6 years.Bigron427 (talk) 07:44, 4 January 2008 (UTC)bigron427

[edit] F-101 weapons

I am beginning work on a separate Wikipedia article on the original F-101 weapon, the little-known Model 96 Store designed and built by McDonnell Aircraft Co. If you look deep in the footnotes for the W-5 warhead in Chuck Hansen's "US Nuclear Weapons", there is a lot of good information on it. Images of the Model 96 store can be seen in Aviation Week Aug 6 1956, p. 151; Kinsey's Detail and Scale volume on the F-101, p. 7; and on the video "F-101 Voodoo" by CAV Video. More to follow!Bigron427 (talk) 07:51, 4 January 2008 (UTC)bigron427

[edit] Survivor at Fairchild AFB?

There was an F-101B on static display in the "airpark" at Fairchild AFB when I was stationed there '90-'94 and it shows up in the satellite view on Google maps (image date unknown). Unfortunately, the information on the Fairchild History Museum and its successor, The Armed Forces & Aerospace Museum, is sketchy. Is this aircraft still there?

[edit] Disposition Unknown- Bergstrom AFB

In the section 'Survivors' it mentions a static display at Bergstom AFB, Austin, TX but mentions that the current disposition is unknown (the base was closed in the '90s.) That display was moved to the local Texas National Guard base Camp Mabry, Austin, TX. The plane has been repainted with Texas insignia and is visible from the Loop 1 freeway bordering the east side of the base. RobVranichII (talk) 23:15, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Devil's Lake ND

I have added one that is in Devils Lake, ND,could someone fix the entry and please tell me how to post a photo of it,it is in beautiful shape and I have a great photo,thanks safn1949@hotmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Safn1949 (talk • contribs) 02:25, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I have formatted the entry for you. As long as you took the photo yourself or have permission to use it, you can upload the image at Wikipedia:Upload. Make sure you choose an appropriate license for it from the pull down menu on the upload page, or else it will get quickly tagged and deleted! Once uploaded you can insert it on the page in the same manner as the exiting photos, such as this example: [[Image:F101Atail532418PuebloMuseum.jpg|thumb| F-101A, AF Serial No. 53-2418, at Pueblo Weisbrod Aircraft Museum, Pueblo, CO]]
Hope that helps? - Ahunt (talk) 12:12, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok,pretend I'm stupid,I can't figure it out,please post this photo where you like, http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:F_101_fighter.jpg I don't want to mess up the page,I took this photo less then 2 weeks ago,thanksSafn1949 (talk) 01:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for uploading it to Commons. It is posted on the page. Have a look at how I did that. - Ahunt (talk) 01:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


Perfect,thanks a lotSafn1949 (talk) 17:26, 10 June 2008 (UTC)