Talk:Extraterrestrial atmospheres

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[edit] Plan for the article

I see this article has returned from the dead a second time. I'm a bit concerned about this for two reasons:

1. Essentially the same concerns of the AfD remain: the article implicitly claims that the solar system is warming, which is original synthesis. It's better now that the title doesn't claim that, at least—but the content still does.
2. What is the goal for content in this article? It shouldn't be just a list of descriptions of the atmosphere of each planet. That can go in the planets' individual articles. There has to be some common thread to tie the content together. And keep in mind that Solar system already talks about each of the planets' atmospheres.

Seems like these concerns will have to be addressed, or else the article will just end up on AfD again, wasting everyone's time. --Nethgirb 12:37, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, sorry. UBeR restarted an article with similar content and I just fixed the page history as to where it came from; after Stephan put a request on UBeR's talk page ref licences. It needs a considerable rework to match the title: he did this a bit but his revisions got lost because I couldn't see a way to merge two sets of histories. Give a few days to sort out a plan please...the title not longer claims the solar system is warming but the contents ain't great. --BozMo talk 13:31, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Okey dokey --Nethgirb 14:04, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

A categorization of extraterrestrial atmospheres would help - any opinions on how to do so, e.g. by type of astronomical body (terrestrial type, gas giant, moon, star), or atmospheric composition? Given the title, we should definitely include extrasolar planets and possibly stellar atmospheres. Hal peridol 14:07, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Maybe planets, then other solar system bodies (moons, comets), then beyond the solar system? (I am not an astronomer!) Raymond Arritt 14:21, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Maybe a bit too much categorization? ;-) ~ UBeR 16:01, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Probably - I would like to type things into similar groupings, but I'm not sure what the most obvious way to do that is. Hal peridol 16:50, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

I guess this thing gets a chance to develope but I share Nethgirbs concerns; this is too similar to the deleted article at the moment. It will get speedied if it isn't careful William M. Connolley 16:58, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

As long as it's here, it might as well have content; its unclear right now whether an article on a set of such disparate topics is more useful than leaving the content in the individual main articles, but perhaps something more can be made of it.Hal peridol 17:14, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it might be useful to include content from the perspective of the study of planetary atmospheres, e.g. NASA planetary science. Hal peridol 17:22, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Between Hal's insertion of good content and my machete acting on the rest, I think it's getting there. Raymond Arritt 17:42, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neptune

Can somebody with full access to the article at http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2007/2006GL028764.shtml check if our description is correct? At least in the abstract, I find no mentioning of a warming of Neptune, only of brightness.

BTW, I planned add a description of the atmosphere of Jupiter, and someone already did! Now I have no excuse not to do my taxes... ;-)--Stephan Schulz 20:08, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

I'll check tomorrow. Thanks, Hal peridol 20:26, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Done (but of course Hal can double-check and add more). Raymond Arritt 20:34, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Looks like a good assessment of the article - Hammel and Lockwood cover some of this and some aspects of Uranian brightness in Icarus, January 2007. The Uranus correlation is somewhat more tenuous. Hal peridol 22:32, 24 May 2007 (UTC)