Talk:Exquisite corpse

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Contents 1 Links 2 Bit copied from fr wiki 3 Being edited 4 Translation 5 Trying to smooth the translation a bit 6 Citations 7 Bauhaus

[edit] Links

I changed the tag at the end of the Ecorpse link to "Defunct", because they aren't doing anything new anymore, but I kept the link in because you can still browse the archive of corpses. I also removed the thing about requiring a subscription for AnExquisiteCorpse, because quite simply it isn't true; all you need is an account (which is free). -Branddobbe 08:18, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bit copied from fr wiki

The last two sentences were copied from the French wikipedia, and probably translated by an automated translator. This is the original text copied from the French wiki at [1]:

"En 2005 à Montréal, proposée par Adrien Lorion,David Étienne et Michel Laroche, un groupe d'une dizaine de cinéastes et auteur-compositeur-interprètes professionnels marquent une véritable évolution artistique en fusionnant l'art du cinéma et l'écriture de la chanson. À titre d'exemple, l'artiste de la chanson et le cinéaste produisant le troisième clip sur les neufs, ne connaîssent que le texte des quatre dernières mesures de la chanson et la dernière scène du deuxième clip et ainsi de suite. Ce qui a pour effet de produire une histoire qui évolue parfois de façon surprenante, parfois de façon radicale et parfois de façon amusante."

A native should translate it.

[edit] Being edited

As a native, I guess I have to work on it ;)

[edit] Translation

"En 2005 à Montréal, proposée par Adrien Lorion,David Étienne et Michel Laroche, un groupe d'une dizaine de cinéastes et auteur-compositeur-interprètes professionnels marquent une véritable évolution artistique en fusionnant l'art du cinéma et l'écriture de la chanson. À titre d'exemple, l'artiste de la chanson et le cinéaste produisant le troisième clip sur les neufs, ne connaîssent que le texte des quatre dernières mesures de la chanson et la dernière scène du deuxième clip et ainsi de suite. Ce qui a pour effet de produire une histoire qui évolue parfois de façon surprenante, parfois de façon radicale et parfois de façon amusante."

"In 2005, Montréal's artists Adrien Lorion, Davis Étienne & Michel Laroche proposed a fusion between movie-maker & song writer/composer/signer, with the objection of making a new evolution into creation. In exemple, the song writer & the movie maker would produce the 3rd clip of 9, without knowing the last 4 measure of the song and the last scene of the 2nd clip and so on... Sometimes, this technique creates a story that evolve suprisingly, sometimes radically and, some other times, simply funny."

That would need some cleanup, but the translation is done... Vlimar 14:20, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trying to smooth the translation a bit

"In 2005, a group of movie-makers and song writer/composer/interpreters, inspired by Montreal artists Adrien Lorion, Davis Étienne, and Michel Laroche, fused the arts of film and song-writing into a new style of media. For example, the song writer and the movie maker produced the third clip of nine (?), only knowing the previous four measures of the song and the last scene of the second clip and so on. This technique creates a story that evolves somtimes suprisingly, sometimes radically and, other times, becomes quite funny."

I'm not sure if "clip" is supposed to have any special meaing here or just refer to a simple movie clip; also I don't know what the "nine" refers to here (however, "neuf" in French can also mean "new" which might make more sense, particularly as it's plural). Maybe someone whose French idiom is better than mine can check it... Quaxanta 01:44, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citations

This article cites sources only for what amount to a couple of trivia facts. Imporant assertions (e.g. that Exquisite Corpse developed from Consequences, and how it did so) are unreferenced. Not tagging the section yet because the sections themselves need a lot of organizing. --Stellmach 15:22, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Is this helpful?

From "Surrealist Games" by Alastair Brotchie, Redstone Press 1991

"THE EXQUISITE CORPSE The Surrealists first played this game, derived from the French parlour game petits papiers, similar to the English game of 'Consequences', around 1925. Breton's first wife, Simone Collinet, described (in LE CADAVRE EXQUIS, SON EXALTATION, Galleria Schwarz, Milan, 1968) how they chanced upon it"

and

"Both Tristan Tzara (op. cit.) [Le Cadavre...] and Georges Hugnet (in PETITE ANTHOLOGIE POETIQUE DU SURRÉALISME, Butcher, 1934) give the procedure for this game.

"The method could be adapted more directly for poetry. While travelling to Avignon, Eluard, Breton and René Char used it to compose a book of poems RALENTIR TRAVAUX (SLOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION) in 1930

"The Belgrade Surrealists played a longer variant in which each player did the same and so on."

"Surrealist Games" also quotes some example games from "La Révolution surréaliste", no 9/10, 1927 and "Le Surréalisme Au Service De La Révolution", no. 4, 1931

I don't have any of the referenced materials, except the six paras of "Le Cadavre..." (Collinet's description of the game's conception) quoted (in English) in "Surrealist Games", nor do I speak any French.

81.178.78.154 07:48, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bauhaus

It may be worth mentioning a little more about the technique when used in music, by mentioning Bauhaus. I have added a note on the disambig page about their song "Exquisite Corpse", and there is at least one other of their songs which was written in the same way. J Milburn 10:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)