Template talk:Expert-subject
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If I understand the methodology of Edit Protected entries, you desire to have an "Expert" on Human Growth Hormone provide an entry expanding on the Subject. May I suggest that each of you take a look at:
www.doctors-choice-hgh-human-growth-hormone.com
and ask that Dr. Michelle Bosten provide some of the Research Data she used to contribute to the above site. While it is tangibly a "Product" Sale site, Yeesch, who isn't these days, it would be providentially useful to examine her, somewhat limited, Data statements for inclusion as a "link" for Readers wishing a more, shall we say, from my own HGH Research view point, a more "honest" Medical opinion.
From my own research and attendant usage of an "alleged" HGH product, with no tangible results, I am 63, I have researched a LOT of websites for their Lists of Ingredients, Scientific Research "Certifications" et. al., and discovered that at MOST, maybe 90%, are outright "frauds"! OK, so that may be a "harsh" statement! In any event, take a look at the above web site and draw your own conclusions.
It would be incumbent on Wikipedia Editors to approach Dr. Bosten and ask her to submit for publication in this Encyclopedia, her best "Expertise". Cheers!
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[edit] possible subject
This template direly needs a link to the possible subjects that can be used as variables. Some time searching and I still haven't found them. MadMaxDog 06:59, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
- Any wikiproject can be used. :) --Brad Beattie (talk) 07:06, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] This template should be placed the talk page
I think that editorial comments like this should not be placed on the article page but on the talk page, after all discussion of editorial issues is why we have talk pages. (See Wikipedia talk:Template standardisation/article#Most maintenance templates should be placed on the talk page --Philip Baird Shearer 10:34, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Add date
Please allow the dating of templates, in a syntax similar to the cleanup tag. I'd be happy to help, if needed, although I lack admin access. MrZaiustalk 21:38, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
#if:{{{1|}}}|<br />This article has been tagged since '''{{{1}}}'''
[edit] CFD follow-up
Following up from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 March 23#Pages needing expert attention subcategories, a modification to this template is needed. At present the template includes:
- <includeonly>[[Category:Pages needing expert attention from {{ucfirst:{{{1}}}}} experts]]</includeonly>
This should be changed to:
- <includeonly>[[Category:{{ucfirst:{{{1}}}}} articles needing expert attention]]</includeonly>
Just in case my template skillz aren't quite as l33t as they should be, {{Expert-subject|Canada}} would currently categorise the page into Category:Pages needing expert attention from Canada experts. This should instead be Category:Canada articles needing expert attention. Hope that makes sense. Thanks in advance, Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:04, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
- Done. I've also (or am doing now) fixing the categories. Harryboyles 09:20, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Protected Edit request date=June 2007
{{EditProtected}} Please make the verbatum substitution to enable display of the "issue" in the template:
- Change from:
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- "If a more appropriate WikiProject or portal exists, please adjust this template accordingly. </div>"
- To the expanded construct within the div block:
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- "If a more appropriate WikiProject or portal exists, please adjust this template accordingly. {{#if:{{{2|}}}|<br><hr>{{{2}}}|''please use <nowiki>{{{2}}}</nowiki> to give a brief synopsis of the change you deem needed to this page.}}{{#if: {{{date|}}} |
::::since {{{date}}} }}</div>"
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- Note, the inner nowiki nested about the {2} parameter will be necessary in the pasted in change, but I've written this so you can just cut and paste both the if-then-else statements between the period and </div> (just as displayed above on the HTML page).
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- As a check, Talk:Type site should then display properly.
- Change 2 request
- I'm somewhat surprised this isn't already present... this should probably have the date stamp parameter 'date' inserted as well. Add that before the div as shown above including the line feed before the string of colons for intenting the result. This is modeled on templates such as {{merge}} (stolen from actually! <g>) and will provide a corpus of predate stamped pages should the expert pages ever be auto-sorted by date-stamped category names. I'll leave the doc page fixup to your imagination and conscience! <g> IMHO, irregardless, having "date= ..." inside any administrative template occurrence is an aid to evaluating whether it's stale and can be cleared, whether one needs to perhaps remind a project about it, etc.
- Again, as a check, Talk:Type site should then display properly.
Thanks // FrankB 14:22, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
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- I think there would be objection to the synopsis appearing on the actual page, as tags generally direct users to the talk page for further discussion. (This template is meant to be used on articles for attracting attention first.) –Pomte 22:11, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- As long as we're tinkering with this template, is there any practical reason at all why the text reading "[[Wikipedia:WikiProject {{{1}}}|WikiProject {{{1}}}]] may be able to help recruit one" couldn't be set not to render when a WP isn't specified? That would completely negate the need for Template:Expert and allow for this template to be moved there or that template to redirect here. MrZaiustalk 14:18, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Expert makes it easy to identify which tags haven't been specified, without the need for an extra maintenance category. This was supposedly the work of Wikipedia:WikiProject Expert Request Sorting. –Pomte 23:22, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Both this template and the old expert template drag in a category: The template as is uses [[Category:{{ucfirst:{{{1}}}}} articles needing expert attention]] and the old template drags in Category:Pages needing expert attention. The extra category's already there, so it wouldn't be duplicating things, and would give a master location at the combined template's Whatlinkshere from which all expert requests could be accessed, if someone were wanting to just pick a couple at random. Combined with the added simplicity of maintaining and promoting just one template, it seems like a win-win to me. Note that, if this isn't done, the date fix would be useful on Template:Expert as well. MrZaiustalk 17:26, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Expert makes it easy to identify which tags haven't been specified, without the need for an extra maintenance category. This was supposedly the work of Wikipedia:WikiProject Expert Request Sorting. –Pomte 23:22, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Do any of the changes suggested in this section have consensus? --ais523 16:56, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Done. The usage still needs to be updated, and the actual category pages need to be created. Cheers. --MZMcBride 18:24, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Editprotected
I wish the template to contain a talk page link. It would be appropriate to always let the usage of this template to be accompanying note on the talk page on exactly what scientific topic' that is related to badly in the article. This should help a great deal when asking an expert to give an opinion. Said: Rursus ☺ ★ 08:45, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
- If you're going to do that, keep in mind that some of us have been under the (apparently mistaken?) impression that this template was a talk page template - Might want conditional language to not display the talk link when printing on talk namespace.
- Other points still outstanding from above wish-list:
- conditional language that makes this work without a WP specified, instead of rendering an explicit {{{1}}} on the screen - cat to the cat used by template:expert when missing an args (possibly controversial, but could make expert requests much simpler for the end user, allowing for this template to be moved over the obsolete template)
- cleanup of displayed text?
- text calling for date to be inserted ala other cleanup templates Mostly fixed MrZaiustalk 15:55, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- MrZaiustalk 13:41, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] edit request
{{editprotected}} "Usage: Add the name of WikiProject after the vertical bar", right?
- While the template itself is protected, the template's documentation sub-page (located at Template:Expert-subject/doc) is not protected. You should be able to edit that freely (this sort of situation is, if I understand correctly, exactly why we started making /doc pages for protected templates). That does sound like a good change, but you should get the credit for it yourself, no? ;) – Luna Santin (talk) 02:37, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Needs "article/section" parameter
Currently, this template simply says "This article or section", and doesn't allow you to select one or the other, as many (most?) other templates here do. Can someone add this to the template? Maybe as an optional 2nd parameter (e.g., {{expert-subject|doohickies|section}}
. +ILike2BeAnonymous 17:15, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
- Done. Rich Farmbrough, 10:18 25 September 2007 (GMT).
[edit] Multiple WikiProjects; talk page link; ...
At European Cooperative Society I wanted to insert an 'in need of attention from an expert' box, but couldn't get the {{Expert-subject}} template to do what I needed. The article is relevant to at least two WikiProjects - I picked the most relevant two in my opinion and designed the following box based on {{Expert}} and {{Expert-subject}} which refers to both WikiProjects and Portals. Apologies for just doing it in the article; there aren't any conditional templating statements in the box's code since I don't really understand them yet:
This article is in need of attention from an expert on the subject. Please help recruit one or improve this article yourself. See the talk page for details. |
I took the opportunity to include the text "Please help recruit one or improve this article yourself. See the talk page for details" from {{Expert}}, and decided not to include "If a more appropriate WikiProject or portal exists, please adjust this template accordingly", to save space and reduce clutter. So, following on from MrZaius' comments above:
- Would it be a good idea to change {{Expert-subject}} to allow boxes to refer to two or more WikiProjects, or none?
- How about a default setting, or an option, to include "Please help recruit one" and/or "or improve this article yourself." and/or "See the talk page for details."?
- The line mentioning the WikiProject(s) would have to be changed to include "recruit one" at the end, if the previous line "Please help recruit one..." isn't included, or if it is included, to leave "recruit one" out.
- How about an option not to include "If a more appropriate WikiProject exists..."?
-- Djmackenzie (talk) 22:29, 6 January 2008 (UTC), revised at 11:28, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, I definitely think there should be an option to include multiple Wikiprojects/Portals - I've just seen this version of Pleasure, and it seems clear that sometimes there is more than one relevant Wikiproject/Portal, and so the option to have more than one in the same template would be a welcome addition for me.
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- As most of the text would have to change to the plural to fit the multiple Wikiprojects/Portals, it might be easier to make a new template (e.g. {{expert-subject-multiple}}). It might be possible (and desirable) to make the text displayed in the template change if there are multiple Wikiprojects/Portals but (I'm speaking with no experience) I guess this would probably be quite hard/complex to code. Gracias, Drum guy (talk) 17:23, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- If only the change to being able to add multiple Wikiprojects was made, the template may look something like this:
- As most of the text would have to change to the plural to fit the multiple Wikiprojects/Portals, it might be easier to make a new template (e.g. {{expert-subject-multiple}}). It might be possible (and desirable) to make the text displayed in the template change if there are multiple Wikiprojects/Portals but (I'm speaking with no experience) I guess this would probably be quite hard/complex to code. Gracias, Drum guy (talk) 17:23, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
This article or section is in need of attention from an expert on the subject. Wikiprojects Psychology, Philosophy or Neuroscience, or the Psychology, Philosophy or Neuroscience Portals may be able to help recruit one. |
[edit] WP:SELF
Forgive my ignorance if this has already been addressed, but this template appears to violate Wikipedia:Self-references to avoid by refering to WikiProjects. I have two possible remedies: limit use of this template to talk pages only, or remove the references in the template but still allow the articles to be categorized as such. Thoughts? --12 Noon 2¢ 05:27, 27 January 2008 (UTC)