Talk:Experimental musical instrument
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I find it hard to believe that custom-made instruments are by their very nature, experimental, and thus find the entire premise of this redirection misleading. Clearly, there is drastically more room for experimentation in a custom instrument, but sometimes somebody just wants a left-handed version of a hard-to-find model, or simply an instrument of the highest caliber. I propose a new article.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Beastmouth (talk • contribs)
- I agree. An "experimental" musical instrument differs from a factory-made one in concept, not only in detail or in quality. --DiderotWasRight (talk) 23:00, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed. I guess the article should just be called "Custom-made musical instrument".
RichLow (talk) 18:58, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed. I guess the article should just be called "Custom-made musical instrument".
[edit] RfC: Is the term 'third-bridge' original research?
Is the term 'third-bridge' original research? User:YuriLandman has been inserting this term into the article, however, afaik, it does not appear in any published source not authored by User:YuriLandman. Is this OR that should be removed from the article? Dlabtot (talk) 15:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
eg, this sentence "One of the first guitarists who began building third bridge instruments was Fred Frith" is supposedly supported by this citation: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:8f87gjer46iv -- which does not actually say anything about "third bridge instruments". These kind of misleading and deceptive citations are unacceptable, imho. Dlabtot (talk) 16:04, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] RFC responses and comments
- I've rephrased the sentence if you have problems looking at it as an 'official term'. The Elgart/Yates book mentions the third bridge technique. YuriLandman (talk) 19:30, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- Could you please, on this talk page, quote the passage that uses the term, and give the page number? Thanks in advance. Dlabtot (talk) 01:08, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- Ah I now see what you mean. The link is put in incorrect. Frith used an instrument with a locked 3rd bridge in the middle, I saw this before on wiki, but it has been deleted. I can't find it on internet anymore, sorry. It must be in some of his cd-booklet I suppose. The only thing I can find is that he used homemade instrument, but I can't find an explanation of how it looks like. The Elgart/Yates only mentions the technique, not the words 3rd bridge. page 4 by pinning it between a string and the nut, fretboard, soundboard or saddle of the guitar. If you have a better word than extra bridge, please replace it. I don't know how to call it else.YuriLandman (talk) 08:26, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- I think the issue is simply one of phrasing. "A third-bridge instrument" (in particular when written with the hyphen) makes this sound like a technical term, but in fact what is meant is only "an instrument that has a third bridge." Since "bridge" is a well-established term in common use when talking about instruments, I see no problem with the latter phrase. DiderotWasRight (talk) 23:02, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
- Ah I now see what you mean. The link is put in incorrect. Frith used an instrument with a locked 3rd bridge in the middle, I saw this before on wiki, but it has been deleted. I can't find it on internet anymore, sorry. It must be in some of his cd-booklet I suppose. The only thing I can find is that he used homemade instrument, but I can't find an explanation of how it looks like. The Elgart/Yates only mentions the technique, not the words 3rd bridge. page 4 by pinning it between a string and the nut, fretboard, soundboard or saddle of the guitar. If you have a better word than extra bridge, please replace it. I don't know how to call it else.YuriLandman (talk) 08:26, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
