Talk:Exit Wounds (Torchwood)

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Contents 1 Spoiler 2 Lachlan Nieboer 3 Sentence Removal 4 Death Spoiler 5 Annoying use of "series" 6 GEOS reference 7 Continuity? 8 Additional plot info added 9 Gray calls his brother "Jack" 10 Continuity - date 11 Continuity

[edit] Spoiler

This article contained what was blatantly advertised as a rumour in place of a synopsis. I deleted this to prevent anyone reading it and having the episode spoilt. 90.192.94.73 (talk) 20:02, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Although it's not the spoilers we're worried about; it's because it is totally unsourced and unverifiable. — Edokter • Talk • 20:42, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

the episode is finished now can we add the plot?--Lerdthenerd (talk) 20:56, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lachlan Nieboer

Who is this Lachlan Nieboer, and why do people keep adding him to the cast without a source? — Edokter • Talk • 19:36, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Google is your friend — Lachlan Nieboer at the Internet Movie Database
But let him tell you himself, hmmm, OK? Upclose 0213 - Lachlan Nieboer. from BBC Torchwood.

—WurmWoode^T 09:20, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sentence Removal

I don't know that it's really worth mentioning, but I took out "Captain John wants Jack to make The Beast with a Two Backs ". It's a sentence fragment, I have no idea what it's supposed to say, and it sounds like it's an unsourced piece of plot. justaredherring (talk) 15:05, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

It refers to them being attracted to each other. Pureferret (talk) 20:59, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Death Spoiler

Someone has just posted about the two characters deaths. Should this be removed/put behind a cut? Pureferret (talk) 21:02, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Does it matter now? The episode has ended.--Lerdthenerd (talk) 21:03, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

That doesn't mean everyone has seen it. I assumed there would be a Synopsis and a Plot section. Pureferret (talk) 21:06, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

write it up properly, so far the IPs have wrote it up as gibberish.--Lerdthenerd (talk) 21:10, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I am trying to correct some of it now, but with such poor grammar I gave up and may being from scratch rather than fixing what has already been writtenNIKKKIN (talk) 21:11, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

its also becoming hard to write every time someone deletes it!--Lerdthenerd (talk) 21:13, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, i wrote something relevant but i got the links and font size wrong by accident. Im not sure how to do this so could someone sort it out please. Thank you 82.39.116.172 (talk) 21:29, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I dont think there is a problem with putting a death spoiler in. If people are reading in that far I think its pretty clear they want to know what happened. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.210.78.64 (talk) 17:07, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Annoying use of "series"

The British have this annoying habit of using "series" where the rest of the world uses "season" - if they won't respect this when writing for wikipedia perhaps there should be a tooltip or something to the casual user isn't totally confused. --IceHunter (talk) 20:07, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

"series" is the correct term in Britain and since this is a British program then the word series should be used, especially since the BBC call it Torchwood series 2, not season 2NIKKKIN (talk) 16:34, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GEOS reference

I think that this reference should be removed. Firstlt it can be a spoiler for next season. And secondly, it's even probably wrong. That same source talked about the filming of the 2009 Doctor Who Specials being underway while they were actually still shooting season four (and they won't start shooting those specials until January 2009. While they've started shooting this Christmas Special these days). Also, I think it's possible they mixed up John *Barrowman* with John *Hart* for being "recurring" next year. And anyway the source is not GEOS, it's SCI-FI Pulse http://scifipulse.net/Dr_Who/ChangesForWho_Torchwood.html (if you want to keep the reference, I really wouldn't). Laz (talk) 19:17, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Continuity?

I apologize if this is completely wrong, as this is the first I've participated in the community, but I have been wondering about Toshiko's reference to the "Space Pig." Aside from the timing problem, it bothers me that Owen from Three would have gotten called in at all when London is clearly Torchwood One's territory. Wouldn't "Space Pig" have happened well before One was destroyed? Given the size of One vs Three I can think of no conceiveable reason they would enlist another brach, like Three, which makes me think that this was a poorly thought out device to tie up this particular loose end. Del7Usion (talk) 12:43, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Additional plot info added

There's an important scene between John and Jack, just before Ianto starts registering Owen and Toshiko's deaths on the Hub computer so I have included it, I hope it is ok --LosHavros (talk) 17:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gray calls his brother "Jack"

When Jack and Gray meet again at long last in 27AD the first word Gray speaks is "Jack". Surely he would call his brother the name he knew him by when they were last together as boys and not by the name he chose to call himself long after their separation. 83.104.249.240 (talk) 04:28, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Except that he clearly knows all about what jack's been up to since then, since he's aware of his immortality and his involvement with Torchwood. It makes sense he'd use the "current" name. JBK405 (talk) 03:34, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Continuity - date

Two bullets in the Continuity section state that the previous episode (Fragments) established the current date as 2009. Did it? Franey (talk) 12:45, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Continuity

How is it original research? He says Jack isn't his real name, but his brother that hasn't met him at all since he took up the name, calls him Jack.--Koji†Dude ^(C) 22:54, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

He said "Captain Jack Harkness" isn't his real name, and since he never revealed his real name (his first name could be Jack), any statement about how Gray adresses him is speculative at best. — Edokter • Talk • 22:57, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah, but what's more speculative, stating that his name isn't "Captain Jack Harkness" but Gray calls him Jack anyway, or saying his first name could be Jack?--Koji†Dude ^(C) 23:00, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

The first was stated by Jack himself. The second was to emphasize the potential pitfalls any statement about his name in the article would introduce... which of course is why you won't see that in the article as well. — Edokter • Talk • 23:05, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Hm. Sounds a little "what are the odds?"-ish, but then again, so did the whole 2nd season... so I see your point. Then we agree to leave it out for now?--Koji†Dude ^(C) 23:12, 12 May 2008 (UTC)