Talk:Excited delirium

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Contents 1 I 2 A suggestion 3 Plagiarism/POV 4 NPOV 5 Is there a gender link?

[edit] I

I invite anyone else to edit this page, as I just really threw a lot of it together based off of news articles and general information I could find on it. If anyone has better information or a better format, go nuts.

[edit] A suggestion

speaking as someone who stumbled onto this page with no prior knowledge of the concept, I found this article quite confusing due to the fact that there is no description of the proposed mechanisms that cause the deaths of the victims of excited delirium. I had to read the external article before I could understand the concept as a whole. As it is, this article just says that there it is controversial and was involved in the deaths of police restraining victims. It would be helpful if it mentioned somewhere that it's theorized the brain causes cardiac arrest - some guy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.238.202.95 (talk) 14:14, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Why are the majority of Wikipedia articles so liberal and slanted? I'm sure the handful of people that have their deaths labeled as Sudden Cardiac Death Due to Excited Delirium each year are clean, healthy, normal people. There's no possibility they could have prior medical problems due to drug abuse, mental illness, or prior injury. In fact, it is very unlikely that those people being restrained and tased by police officers have been violent or dangerous to themselves or others. They probably were walking to church when the police tased and sat on them until they died for no good reason. Why not give a medical description of Excited Delerium instead of a biased forgery of an article. ?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.169.189.110 (talk) 21:18, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, actually, most of them are high on drugs at the time. The proposed mechanism is adrenaline overload. Supposedly if you can get them to the emergency room, there are some reasonably efficacious treatments. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:09, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Plagiarism/POV

This article is basically identical to the one at zarc.com (http://www.zarc.com/english/other_sprays/reports/excited_delirium.html) Apart from the copyright issues this might cause, the zarc article has obvious POV issues to be used as the sole source for this page, being that it is published by a pepper spray manufacturer. This page should probably be tagged as POV in dispute (sorry, I don't know how to do that). 140.107.169.117 01:54, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

If I helps, I went through the article and tried to re-write several portions and fix any issues that did not convey the story with adequate neutrality. If there is anything else that should be changed, go ahead and do so or say so and I'll try and fix it. -- 72.54.124.78

I reverted the article to the version before the copyrighted text was added. Modifying the content does not work well for resolving copyright issues. Unless the content is entirely rewritten, some of the content is always still unaltered, and violating copyright just "a little bit" does not make it acceptable. -- Kjkolb 12:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Not to be obscene, but if you're going to remove most of the content of the page, even if it is because of copyright issues, at least leave a stub notice on it. --8472

And this doesn't seem to be a very neutral POV. --198.164.151.6 12:04, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

To maintain neutrality on this topic, I suggest that every line in the article have a reference. We should have both side of the issue present with each given its own space. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 17:56, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Support: Although I am not particularly inclined to encourage differing "sides" on the matter carving out their own little partitioned subsections within the article. dr.ef.tymac 19:36, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

It's main cause is a rush of adrenelin, believe me I have had gone through this lots of times, either that or its a genetic defect, in that case get me an honorable death.

The only genetic defect it could be is a defect from my fathers side, possibly caused by agent orange during vietnam.

Or its because I have a lack of L-Tryptophan in my diet.

Or it was caused by my sister.

Or it was caused by Geodon withdraw.

Or it was caused by behavior modification in therapy.

Or it was caused by reverse gender rolls.

Or arguing with bad teachers.

Or getting graded down in college because of my political views.

Or it was caused by James Carvill (that man scares the crap out of me, and not because of all the people he's killed).

Good grief someone help me out here, and I don't need psychological help, I met all the goals on my goals sheet in thearapy.

Darrell Porter did not die from this, he was always a very calm and collective person when I knew him.

There is no evidence of any of this, just personal observation on my side.

Ok. You have shared your personal observation. Thank you for giving people a chance to see what you have to say. It is much better than erasing the whole page and silencing everyone else.

Just remember, before putting words in the Wikipedia article or taking words out, you need to have some evidence so people can learn more. That way, no one can blame you or discredit you saying, "He's just writing from his own personal opinion." Even if there is some misleading information in the article, it takes calm and collected research and time to reach our goal to improve it. It's not always easy, but if we cooperate, it works. Regards. dr.ef.tymac 02:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

No matter, I was just testing you guys(I never had any malicious intent), I have never bothered exploring this side of wikipedia so I was unaware of all of this. My experiences with the psychiatric community did happen, and I am not lying about my opservations, I should not have been on Geodon in the first place. I will stay on the front side, just paint my future a good one for me, I will add my e-mail address and my real full name to my page so people can contact me when they need me to vouch for anything. My username page is a little unorganized because it didn't save character returns, but etom needs to be in the Iraq Dinar folklore somehow so I know I can trust you guys to take care of it. Just remember, I am not a meddler nor am I an infidel. I am very convinced that all of you have something going with this wikipedia project, and you will recieve donations from me on a regular basis. I just want to stay off those psychiatric meds and sleeping pills, they scare girls away. Oh yeah and I am a man FYI. Good luck to you all, and don't get too technical on things, and don't stear away from the fundamentals. All the evidence of my psychiatric experience's are in my medical records, which remain private, but quite frankley I would not mind making them public to some people so we can put an end to some of this.

Thank You All

etom

I edited the page to remove the implication that tasering caused death ("tasered to death"). It could be a contributing factor, but the direct link hasn't been proven. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.67.16.177 (talk) 18:01, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is there a gender link?

All the people listed as being examples are men. I wonder if this is significant or just co-incidental. Is there any reliable info out there on this aspect? If so, it should be included or at least referenced. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grandma Roses (talk • contribs) 11:44, 23 April 2008 (UTC)