User talk:Ewen

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I see you've been here a while, and should have been welcomed earlier, but better late than never!

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[edit] License tagging for Image:Tetrachlorocuprate (ii).png

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[edit] Unblocked

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[edit] Blocked IP address

The IP address you have blocked is for Swansea College. We have a few idiots here who might vandalise wikipedia. They can be identified. The rest of us, IMHO, are fairly decent folk who would like to contribute. Ewen 14:30, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Twikker

I'm afraid that articles can be AfD'd any number of times. In this case I simply decided that there was sufficient evidence of bad faith in the second nomination (opened by a likely sockpuppet account less than 7 days after a previous AfD) to close it early. You are correct that my removal of the image whilst closing the AfD was a mistake.

I still don't think that the rock climb reference is necessary. Unless it can be definitively shown to be linked to the magazine then it is a long way off-topic for an article on the magazine. There is only really need for disambiguation is someone decides to write an article on the climb.

My only advice for intense debates is to try to stay calm. If someone on wiki really annoys me I try to stop myself from posting right away—things like AfDs last a few days, so there is time to stop and consider the situation. —JeremyA 04:29, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Twikker

Thanks for you comments today, and the additional cleanup to my edits. I hope the Twikker article grows healthily. The preceding comment contained scenes of a violent or sexual nature, and should not have been viewed by young children. L.J.Skinnersomething to say? 14:15, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Referencing

Hi Ewen, just a few tips on referencing. the <ref name=blahblah> is best used when you're referencing the same source more than once.

  • If you are just referencing a source the once, use <ref>[url goes here [SPACE] name of article here], description, author, date extra info etc</ref>
  • If you are using a source more than once, use <ref name=blahblah>[url goes here [SPACE] name of article here], description, author, date extra info etc</ref> the first time, and <ref name=blahblah/> for all the other times.

Just a few hints! The preceding comment contained scenes of a violent or sexual nature, and should not have been viewed by young children. L.J.SkinnerWOT? 23:19, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I thought so too. Then something went oddly wrong with the refs on the Twikker page and I tried naming them. That sorted it. Now it's happy without the names so I'm back to agreeing with your point again. Go figure! BFN Ewen 06:27, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:Twikker1991.png)

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You're dead right. The author gave me a better version of the image which is currently used on Twikker. Image:Twikker1991.png can be deleted as Image:Twikker_1991.png is better. Ewen 15:27, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You Killed My Shit Haiku!

68.50.243.94 06:26, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Sure did 8-) Ewen 06:29, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Haematoxylin units

Interesting, I didn't know the two were interchangeable. As gm (for g) was definitely incorrect, I also targeted mL, which I considered incorrect due to encountering l, ml, μl, etc. more often in text books and papers. In my opinion, consistency is probably the best option. Mushintalk 17:28, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Criticisms of the IBDP

I was trying to put another view across that many people express about the IB Programe. I didnt post it to cause controversey. I have a friend who was trying to get into medical school and they turned him down because he was taking IB, He then openly admitted to the school taht eh would have rather done the ALevel program! Hope this helps!

I'd say a one-off case is not the reason to generalise like you did. I know students who have had offers from medical schools on the basis of their IB course. Was your friend studying two sciences at Higher Level? If not, then he/she/the tutor chose the wrong subjects for a prospective medical student - something which can happen for A-levels as well.
Could you define or quantify 'many people'? I've literally not met anyone who reckons that the IBDP is inferior to A-levels. quite the opposite.


Ewen 18:11, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I know I'm butting in on a conversation that finished 6 months ago, but I'm hoping to apply to study Medicine using the IB, and I was wondering what the reason the university gave to your friend for not offering a place was. Thanks, ::..SMI..:: (talk) 00:02, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

The first comment in this section was by User:Zombiboy, not me. Universities do all sorts of odd things when making offers, so the best advice is always to talk to the universities you're considering. Sometimes they make unfair offers to IB students either because they don't understand the IB or because they don't want IB students for some reason (I've heard it suggested that rejecting IB students is a means to increase the proportion of state school students they accept, since the IB is more often taught in private schools).
Basically, ask the universities and good luck!
Ewen (talk) 11:21, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Ok thanks a lot ::..SMI..:: (talk) 11:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Barbecue

Wow! How many words can you make from (changing) a single letter?

[edit] June 2007

In a recent edit, you changed one or more words from one international variety of English to another. Because Wikipedia has readers from all over the world, our policy is to respect other forms of English in Wikipedia articles.

For subjects exclusively related to Britain (for example, a famous British person), use British English. For something related to the United States in the same way, use American English. If it is an international topic, use the same form of English the original author used.

In view of that, please don't change articles from one version of English to the other, even if you don't normally use the version the article is written in. Respect other people's versions of English. They in turn should respect yours. Other general guidelines on how Wikipedia articles are written can be found in the Wikipedia:Manual of Style. If you have any queries about all this, just ask anyone on Wikipedia and they will help you. Thank you. Changing "barbeque" to "barbecue" Andrew_pmk | Talk 09:42, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I am aware of the spelling policy but I didn't think it would be problem changing the spelling from 'Barbeque' (which is not the prefered version in any version of English, and is not listed in the OED (British) or Webster's (American) dictionaries) to 'Barbecue', which is the prefered/only version in all versions of English.
Maybe I'm wrong about the spelling in other countries but I have actually checked.
Ewen 09:46, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Name and Shame??

I find your commentary on your user page uncivil towards myself and CJ. Please think about editing it (ref WP:CIVIL. Alex Sims 12:34, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barbeque bender

Hi Ewen, You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about the Barbecue, Barbeque, or BBQ. It's nice to see a committed editor but this is not a great area for you to spend your editing time. I note others are picking you up on this also. I have had to revert one or two of your edits - for example illScarlett where the reference (please check) itself refers to BBQ = Barbeque, or where the local use of the word is not Barbecue. Perhaps it will help if you read Wiki's own article Barbeque or if you prefer Barbecue and you will see that they are the same article. Then if you go to the talk page you will see that others have discussed the variations of the word. In the meantime please do not adjust the spelling in any other articles when there is not a direct reason to do so.--VS talk 13:07, 14 June 2007 (UTC) PS I support Alex Sims request that you consider adjusting your user page to not reflect your disagreement in the way that you have.

I was trying not avoid being personal, but I thought it worth noting as a point of fact that other people had views on the matter. Sorry if this caused offence but I can't see why it would.
Yes, I have a bee in my bonnet about it. As I said on my user page, there is actually a policy that recommends using spellings, if possible, which are common to all versions of English. Is this not a direct reason to change the spelling, so that people searching for 'Barbecue' find every relevant article?
I also pointed out that I have read Talk:Barbecue, and noted that Barbeque is simply a redirect to Barbecue - the prefered spelling.
Thanks for taking the time to ask about the matter.
Ewen 13:36, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


A number of people on Wikipedia seemed to be militarily of the opinion that because "barbeque" can be used in Australia, it should be, and will revert any efforts to use the preferred spelling, "barbecue". I chose to allow this rather than get into an edit war. You can point out people's mistakes, but you can't always get them to admit to them.

DOSGuy 05:28, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] US spelling

As I said I appreciate your enthusiasm but I would suggest removing other editors' details from your front page because that will make your research look less than a personal confrontational with those people. I would also ask that you take on board the fact that people around the world - spell this item in different ways - so there is no absolute correctness or absolute commonality except perhaps in various regions but with respect even in the United States the word is spelled in a variety of ways. Indeed in the interests of accuracy regarding your personal discourse I must note that in fact my copy of the US Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary provides both barbecue and barbeque as alternative spellings. Additionally this fact can be found on-line here Cheers--VS talk 13:48, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the Webster reference, duly noted; but the entry is for 'Barbecue' with 'Barbeque' as an alternative. That doesn't read like an equal footing to me. And as I say; one spelling is universally accepted and the other isn't - so why use the controversial spelling? Ewen 13:56, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the changes to your user page. Spelling is an area of great concern on Wikipedia - and I don't want to get into a long discourse on this matter other than to say barbeque is accepted as an appropriate alternative in the wiki community. Indeed there are far more serious errors abounding the pages across English Wiki and you would get enormous respect and plaudits of appreciation from your fellows if with your eye for such detail you helped clean up the really dirty spelling that abounds. That's just a suggestion - but whatever you do keep editing, stay civil, don't lose heart. --VS talk 14:04, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Just give me an example or two and I'll go after them with extreme prejudice. 8-) Ewen 14:07, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
barbeque is _only_ accepted by _some_ people as an appropriate alternative in the wiki community. I must agree with Ewen here: barbecue is correct in all 'versions' of English, while barbeque is not. Therefore I consider barbecue the recommended spelling and all variations should be changed accordingly imho. Van der Hoorn 15:15, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
In the example given above, illScarlett, a Canadian band, the reference cited gives BBQ and the external link on the same page gives 'barbecue'. Neither uses barbeque. -- roundhouse0 11:52, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for checking, roundhouse! Ewen 13:20, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Thankyou for modifying your user page. However I think you need to make a real contribution through research. A bot could easily make the hundreds of changes you are making manually. If you think it is useful then please go down that path. I do not think you are taking WP:ENGVAR to heart, and should cease changing perfectly acceptable (and correct) Australian English. Please also read WP:3RR it is the fourth revert that will have you suspended (which is a silly course of action). Alex Sims
Because you starting the reverting process I think it's you who would be suspended first. I thought I'd mention it before it happened.
I'll look into a bot, thanks for the suggestion. However, I'm not sure it would avoid changing trade names and it wouldn't have a look at other issues on the same page.
'Barbecue' is also perfectly acceptable and correct Australian English, so why do you find it necessary to change it?
Having read WP:ENGVAR I noticed that it recommends using words, if they exist, where the spelling is common to all varieties of English. That excludes 'barbeque' which is not acceptable in British English and is a minority spelling elsewhere (as Macquarie states).
Ewen 09:20, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Can you please cease editing Australian articles for the time being? Alex Sims 09:26, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
OK; solely to avoid being provocative. I stand by the points I made above, though. Ewen 09:31, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fadden Barbeques/Barbecues

Nineteen edits have been made on the Fadden, Australian Capital Territory article since the start of this year; nine of these have occured in the last three days over the spelling of "barbeque/barbeque". Perhaps we should all find something more useful to contribute to the article?WA Burdett 12:12, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:SwanseaCollegeLogo2.png

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Thanks for the Alert. I think I've justified the inclusion - what do you think?
Can I draw your attention to Image:Gorseinonlogo.gif? It's where I found the licensing and I think it's similarly lacking in rationale.
Ewen 14:48, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Graham Poll

Hi. I noticed that, like myself, you recently reverted the addition of what I would call sensitive information about his family, specifically the names of his children. I was wondering what your exact reasons were. I will say that mine were basically for the above reason - that the information is sensitive, and potentially increases their vulnerability, and is encyclopedically unnecessary given that the article exists to testify to his notability as a football referee. He is not considered notable for producing children or naming them X and Y as far as I know, so the extra info is irrelevant, in my view.

Your thoughts? Best wishes. Ref (chew)(do) 15:02, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

It's under Biographies_of_living_persons#Privacy_of_names isn't it? "Editors should take particular care when considering whether inclusion of the names of private, living individuals who are not directly involved in an article's topic adds significant value. The presumption in favor of the privacy of family members of articles' subjects and other loosely involved persons without independent notability is correspondingly stronger." The names do not add significant value so their privacy is more valuable than the trivial matter of knowing their names.
Your admonition was 'please do not identify minors by name!' - I'm not sure if there's a specific policy on that but it seems a good rule to follow. I wonder if UK child protection law or press guidelines have anything relevant on the matter?
Ewen 18:21, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Unfortunately, it's difficult to go about quoting country-specific privacy and child protection laws, as you'll understand, due to the global nature of the Wikipedia machine. And whilst the "Privacy of names" policy appears to be in place to discourage the annoyance of the subjects of the articles, I would suggest that the potential compromising of minors safety is a much more serious matter. Which is why I state such an ethos forthrightly whenever I revert such edits (thankfully, not that often). A policy specifically covering that facet would be useful (I've looked for one, but not found one as yet). Anyway, thanks for the input. Best wishes. Ref (chew)(do) 20:08, 9 July 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Terry Magee

Hi, Look, I'm afraid you're wrong on this one. Betws is not part of Ammanford (there's a river between the two). I could give some very precise references for Terry's address but I'm not sure he'd want this personal data posted so prominently. As you said, you don't know the area. I live here. I appreciate the situation is confusing but believe me, many people use 'Ammanford' as shorthand for this whole area which is why so many references give it as his home town. Ewen 11:44, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

I dont doubt the information is correct, I would wouldnt be surprised in you know Terry very well and I am sure what you are saying in correct and he lives in Betws - however, the two references say he lives in Ammanford. Wiki works on verifability not truth - please read WP:V. If you can get a source per WP:RS that counteracts the two existing sources then I would be happy to look at them. regards--Vintagekits 11:50, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
This discussion is duplicated from User_talk:Vintagekits#Terry_Magee and I will continue it there, not here.

Ewen 12:01, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] magnesium merge

Nice job, well good start at least. I reckon that you might like to consider the human health section as a higher level section. It may well end up with quite a lot of its own subsections as time goes on. Reveldrummond 23:53, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm glad you noticed that it was just a start. There's plenty to do still but I haven't had time to merge sections on a sentence-by-sentence level; and you're probably right about raising the prominence of the human health section. I'll have a look when I can but I'm hoping that by then someone else will have moved the project forward ;-) Ewen 05:50, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Presumptive Test

Thanks for the comment on my discussion page. I am glad that we agree about the tag. The reason I knew the presumptive test lacked context was because I'm not an expert in the subject, and I couldn't grasp quite what field was even being discussed (apparently it's medical and forensic science.) As I think most people would agree, an article should generally make sense to non-experts. Though I'd say the article could still use further clarification, I'll leave the work to an expert. So in summary, not knowing the subject doesn't mean I can't plainly see that it lacks context. I'm sure you'd rather have somebody qualified taking care of the article's actual content than have a baffled general reader grope in the dark for an answer, right? 66.28.71.162 17:13, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] DAB

Think it's worth setting up a Digestion (disambiguation) page? Particularly given this? WLU 15:33, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Good point. Go for it! If you don't start it, I will... Ewen 18:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
You are more than welcome. DAB pages are a pain in the ass since I'm usually ill-informed of the topic and don't know how to differentiate them. Since you seem so knowledgeable regards precipitates, I'm sure the rest will be a breeze for you. *dusts hands, looks for further opportunities to delegate* WLU 18:50, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for clarification

Thank you for clarification, on the page on personality psychology, the difference between two types of factor analysis - orthogonal and oblique. I do like the word "orthogonal" and I fear that I may have inserted the confusing English for the non-expert. ACEOREVIVED 19:46, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


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Rationale now provided. OK? Ewen (talk) 06:28, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Recognised convention in the UK

Living in the UK I have found it to the widely used, officially recognised usage.Alexsanderson83 (talk) 21:19, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Living in the UK (not that far from Shane Williams, as it happens), I have not often noticed it. Perhaps you could provide a reference?
Besides, wikipedia has a policy on these matters: Do not append an s for the plurals of unit symbols (kg, km, in, lb, not kgs, kms, ins, lbs).
Ewen (talk) 21:43, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rugby Convert

Edit to read 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m) is the convert to use for a UK based player as your edits aren't giving out the right details. Also 5 ft 11 in (180 cm) should be in m for France, only Australia use cm to measure human height.Londo06 14:06, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

It's a problem with the convert template but {{convert|6|ft|4|in|m|sigfig=3}} (i.e. 6 feet 4 inches (1.93 m)) works too. Ewen (talk) 14:21, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Links of units on infobox

This is a question of aesthetics rather than the units themselves. Is it necessary to link these on the infobox, it does look quite garish. There is also the question of Overlinking#Overlinking as a number of rugby union articles are fairly short.Londo06 15:39, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, y'know you can change it if you want... If the RU articles are short, perhaps they need lengthening? Ewen (talk) 19:47, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Will do.Londo06 9:27, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bellerive Yacht Club

Thanks for updating the spelling of "Barbecue" on the new article I created about Bellerive Yacht Club in accordance with the accepted Wikipedia Standard. My greatest thanks though is actually for drawing my attention to the hilarious debate on the subject talk page! I had no idea people were so passionate about the way it should be spelled, or what for that matter, actually constitutes a barbecue! Just as an interesting aside, although I was aware of the two main alternative spellings, having grown up in Tasmania I think we pretty exclusively spell it "Barbeque", and I had assumed the spelling with the 'c' was an Americanisation. I now stand corrected. I will also draw your attention to the internationally successful company, 'Barbeques Galore'[1] who chose to use the spelling with the 'q'. For me personally, it doesn't really matter either way, although I think I have always though it to be correct with the 'q' in the past. On a final note, I just went out onto the patio to double check, and the label on my rather cheapo brand one refers to it as a barbeque. English is in constant flux after all... So long as the meat is well cooked I will be happy! Robert Fleming (talk) 13:59, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. Good message - made me laugh! It should be a trivial issue but too many people got too irate over the matter. Ewen (talk) 18:07, 22 March 2008 (UTC)