Talk:Evolutionary theory and the political left

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I'm not crazy about this article title, but don't have a better idea at the moment. Also, while this is a topic of some interest, does it need a separate article? Is someone going to write it? Gwimpey 18:24, Aug 3, 2004 (UTC)

alright, alright, though I agree we may need a better title. Dunc_Harris|☺ 09:34, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

To have an article about the "Political left" be mostly about Marxist interpretations of something is about as NPOV as having an article about the "Political right" be only about Nazi interpretations. I'm not sure Lysenkoism ought to be featured so prominently -- the reasons for its success were only linked to Soviet political ideology in a round-about way: Lysenko, the peasant, triumphing over the ivory tower biologists. There is no evidence that it was because of any rebellion against the notion of evolutionary theory applying to man, as Loren Graham as pointed out quite estutely in the books cited under the Lysenkoism article (Soviet philosophy of science generally did not even worry about such a thing; Marxist dialectical materialism dictated that only economics and history governed man, not any reductive science). So, I guess what I'm saying is, I think that the section on Lysenkoism should be removed, with a smaller summary and a link to the Lysenkoism article (which has evolved quite a bit since it was last pasted in here, anyway). --Fastfission 22:08, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Article Expansion

There's already a "politics of creationism" article, and while creationism may not be a scientific topic per se, it provides an idea. Why not an "Evolution and Politics" article to provide an overview and launch point for topics relating the turbulent history of evolution in the political sphere? Most of the content from this article could be merged into that. Not only would it provide a justification for exploring "social Darwinism," Nazi theories of race, and other subjects of interest in their historical/political framework, but we could also dispense with broad labels and discuss specific political movements without ideologically grouping Scandinavian liberalism in with Stalinist communism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.230.208.234 (talk) 01:56, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fix it yourself

Hi Dunc, if you're going to revert everything I did, please make sure that these passages finally get fixed:

The Williams revolution however (popularised by Richard Dawkins) there was advances in theory (particularly application of game theory) leading to a paradigm shift. John Maynard Smith, who was a communist until leaving the party in protest at the suppression 1956 Hungarian Uprising was particularly game theory — (see Maynard Smith, 1981).

i.e. your edits from long ago: [1] and [2].

May I also remind you that you don't own any article on wikipedia, so if you're reverting changes that result from a discussion that has been going on for two months without your ever partaking in it, I feel you should be more specific than:

'I'm sure you can understand there is a difference between a viewpoint from an historical event. You can't just arbitrarily decide to delete an article like this (which is what you'e effectively doing!).'

(quoted from Talk:Williams revolution) - Samsara 23:41, 8 January 2006 (UTC)