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[edit] Not For Your Ears (2003)

I wonder why the 'Not For Your Ears' album isn't listed... Tracks on this album:

Track Length Popularity

  • 1 Whisper 2002 05:13 14%
  • 2 Everybody's Fool 03:02 100%
  • 3 Anything for You 03:25 20%
  • 4 Even in Death 04:09 31%
  • 5 Further Away 03:53 15%
  • 6 Imaginary 03:32 88%
  • 7 My Tourniquet 03:49 18%
  • 8 Taking Over Me 03:19 82%
  • 9 Haunted 03:31 90%
  • 10 Before the Dawn 03:17 22%
  • 11 Untitled (I Must Be Dreaming) 04:20 2%
  • 12 Hello 03:34 85%
  • 13 Taking Over Me (long version) 03:42 0%
  • 14 Missing 04:15 27%
  • 15 Surrender 03:37 24%
  • 16 Bring Me to Life (original version) 04:08 0%
  • 17 Breathe No More 03:48 17%
  • 18 Forgive Me 03:02 24%
  • 19 You 04:38 19%

source: http://www.last.fm/music/Evanescence/Not+for+Your+Ears
sorry for the formatting...

It is not listed due to it being a fake Album/Demo CD. It is apparently a compilation of various other demos and Amy Lee's "You" (which isn't even an Evanescence song).[1] This is non-notable and for the reasons above should not go in this article. -- Huntster T • @ • C 21:37, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Notability only applies for existance of articles, not their content. It's a popular album with many sources, so I think it should be included with information about it being a fan compilation. 69.182.106.175 11:42, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
That is not true. Notability applies to articles and content...I cannot begin to describe how much minutiae gets deleted from articles because it is minor. Remember also that just because an item is widespread, as Not For Your Ears is, does not mean it is notable or well sourced. Aside from message boards and fansites, what kind of mainstream coverage has it received? -- Huntster T • @ • C 20:19, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
WP:N explicity states it does not apply to content here. However, I do agree that you need sources, of which I cannot find any. 69.182.106.175 04:08, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Complete"?

The "complete" list of recordings seems to be missing a few unreleased items. I've come across the following tracks, downloaded by a friend over a P2P network, which seem genuine to me:

  • "Wash it all away (demo)", 7:23. Production quality isn't great, so probably a very early recording. From the length, there's an outside chance due to the length of the file that this is "Understanding" (which I haven't yet heard) misnamed. Most distinctive aspect is probably the spoken sound samples, which seem to be discussing repressed memories, in case that helps identify it as a misnamed file. Chorus contains lyrics "Can't wash it all away // can't wish it all away." Scratch that: Looks like this is "Understanding". JulesH 21:21, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
  • "Heart-shaped box", 3:56. A recording from a live radio session in which they played said Nirvana song. This is not the recording on Going Under. As its clearly a bootleg, I'm not sure whether or not it should be included.

Hope this is useful to someone. JulesH 20:17, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Origin

Their debut album "Origin" is mentioned in just about every Evanescence article, and even has it's own page. Yet it's not mentioned here at all. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 168.105.126.76 (talk • contribs) 14:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

That is because it is not considered a true album. Origin is a demo CD, released by the band themselves in a very limited distribution back when they were playing in Arkansas. It is mentioned in the article, under "Complete list of band recordings". -- Huntster T • @ • C 20:48, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Singles UWC points

Can anyone please mention from where these UWC points are sources from? User:Luxurious.gaurav

United World Chart data comes from http://www.mediatraffic.de , which is a conglomerate chart that tracks numerous localised charts worldwide. -- Huntster T • @ • C 13:30, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
But may i know where are these points on the site?i could not find them anywhere.These statistics are unscourced.For example, the song "The Sweet Escape" by Gwen Stefani in currently on the chart along with a red triangle followed by 2.This means that it has sales of 2x 2 million=4.000.000 UWC points.But,the moment the song will be out of the chart,there will be nothing to prove that the song had 4 milion plus points.Only "bring me to life" has a scource on the site.The other singles dont have any source.A source should be permanent.Pleas make a note of it and do the necessary changes.Thank you! User: Luxurious.gaurav
Typically, the only stats that are shown for albums reflect its time on the visible chart, because one can easily look through the chart history and check week to week progress. However, I don't know of anything outside of this. I do not like charting information on wikipedia and wish it would all go away (save for the official sales statements by RIAA or the label), so I'll be of no further help here. -- Huntster T • @ • C 11:38, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
But the final thing is that the numbers are unscourced and should be removed.I hope they are.Because there are very rare articles where the UWC points are mentioned.They were mentioned on Gwen Stefani's discography too.But it caused a lot of problems and questions and ended with removal of the points. User: Luxurious.gaurav

[edit] Certifications

There is something going on with certifications here. Obviously it would be preferable to have a source for all of these, but I am aware that, with so many, it is hard, if not impossible, to get a source for every one. It would be nice though, if the accuracy was checked.

Here are some things I just found merely while browsing through:

Anywhere But Home

Canada - Sales: 100,000 (enough for platinum) but somehow ranked Diamond for 1,000,000 sales

Australia - Sales: 30,000 (not even enough for gold) but somehow 2x Platinum

Bring Me to Life

New Zealand - 5,000 but still ranked Platinum

Am I missing something? Or do these need to be fixed. NRS11 03:13, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

These can be hard to deal with, however, let's see what we can come up with. Canada's Diamond is at least cited, because it refers strictly to the DVD sales (music video). The same goes with Australia's x2 Plat, as it too is referring to the DVD certification criteria. New Zealand is a little harder to figure out, but I'm thinking it too may refer to the video rather than the single (though I'm not sure how that is possible). The numbers at least work out for it. See Music recording sales certification for an up-to-date list of certs, if you've not already found it. It is also possible that these certs refer to older versions of the countries' sales certs, but that is only a guess. Of any of them, New Zealand is the only one I'd have concerns about. -- Huntster T • @ • C 04:44, 9 August 2007 (UTC)