Talk:Eusebio Kino
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[edit] DISPUTED tag
Since it seems that the only disputed issue regards the name, and it has been resolved below, why don't remove the disputed tag ? StefanoC 15:38, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- Noone is complaing, so I'll remove the tag... StefanoC 11:36, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Kino or Kühn?
I came across this article after reading another account that stated that Father Kino was German-born; the birthdate and some other data also differs significantly from what is listed in this article. The text below was taken directly out of the "Eusebius Kino" article in the Catholic Encyclopedia, which is referenced here:
A famous Jesuit missionary of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries; b. 10 August, 1644, in Welschtirol (Anauniensis); d. 15 March, 1711. Kühn (his German name; Kino representing the Italian and Spanish form) entered the Upper German Province of the Society of Jesus on 20 November, 1665. He was professor of mathematics for some years at Ingolstadt, and went to Mexico in 1680. There he founded the mission of Lower California (Clavigero, "Historia della California", Venice, 1787, I, 163 sqq.), the mission first beginning to develop when Father Kino, who had been working since 1687 in Sonora, crossed the Rio Colorado on a bold voyage of exploration, and discovered the overland route to California, which he thus demonstrated to be a peninsula. We owe our first exact information about this vast and at that time almost unknown country to the reports and cartographical sketches of Father Kino, who thoroughly explored the country several times, covering, according to Clavigero, more than 20,000 miles.
Rather than make what could be contested edits by incorporating the above, I'd prefer to get another party to review this material and "weigh-in" on the matter first.--Lord Kinbote 22:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
- Kino is definitely the most common form of the name, though it appears that he was actually born in what was Austria at the time of his birth. There are some obvious changes required, which I will make, then see where the rest goes. Mdhennessey 07:40, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Catholic Encyclopedia is way off the mark. First, Kino was born in Val di Non in the XVII century... which means he wes born within the Bishopric of Trent. His village, Segno, is today part of the municipality of Taio; searching the phone book (yes, I'm a local) I found that Taio, which has roughly 2700 inhabitants, totals 127 Chini families, and NO Kinos at all. In fact the form Kino was born because he was an Italian working with Spaniards: he wanted to preserve the "hard" c (otherwise they would have said it like "chili"), and the final o comes from the usual traposition from Latin to Romance languages of -us into -o (that is, he signed himself Kinus in Latin). Regards, Tridentinus 15:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, his baptismal papers register him as filius domini Francisci Chini (Studi trentini 1930, VIII, pg. 7). From the same source I get that his mother was a Margherita Luchi, and was baptised by don Vittore Barbacovi. Godfather was don Francesco Arnoldo, titular of the Taio parish, and Rosa, wife of Eusebio Chini from Segno. Tridentinus 16:22, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks--nice work! Mdhennessey 20:40, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
