Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 2005

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Why on earth not a discussion page for the great Eurovision Sog Contest?

Because I think that Talk pages are generally reserved for discussion of the article rather than the topic it is about. I could be wrong, I don't know the convention, but all the Talk pages I have seen seem to follow that pattern. Sinistro 09:01, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
You are quite right. Wikipedia is not a general discussion forum, and the talk pages exist for editorial discussions about what the article should say (although other comments are acceptable up to a point). — Trilobite (Talk) 18:49, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Israel, Lebanon and Turkey

Are Israel, Lebanon and Turkey slowly being phased into the EU or something? Last time I checked these countries arent even in Europe, except Turkey which is partially in Europe. Why are these countries allowed in Eurovision?

I'm gonna be slightly rude here... but have you tried reading the Eurovision Song Contest article? ;) --Neo 22:48, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
Seconded. Sorry .. The Songcontest has NOTHING to do with the EU. In fact, it's older really :D -ChiLlBeserker


[edit] First update

It was me Dankell who updated first who won the ESC 2005. In CET 00.33 22 May, I just have to say it! (Any Swedes? Check out the swedish update i did too: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurovisionsschlagerfestivalen_2005)

  • Its not that much of a big deal, although congratulations I guess. Hedley 23:51, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Updating

This article needs updating from top through bottom. Hedley 23:51, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Eurovision?

I've read this article's introduction and don't really have a clear idea what "Eurovision" exactly is. Could someone clarify what Eurovision is in the intro, preferably in the first or second sentence? Thanks. --tomf688(talk) 01:12, May 22, 2005 (UTC)

That's what the Eurovision Song Contest article is about, this article is specifically about the 2005 contest. --Bjarki 01:24, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
There's not that much to it really: a load of people from various countries come and sing songs, and then the other countries award them points, and someone wins. But as Bjarki says, we have an article all about it. — Trilobite (Talk) 01:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

forget it a semi-final LOL -~~

@Bjarki: Readers shouldn't have to read several articles to understand the point of an article. It's just a sentence or two, which will clarify things greatly for non-Europeans who have never heard of a Eurovision. --tomf688(talk) 02:32, May 22, 2005 (UTC)
But we link to it in the first line. Under that logic we would have to explain what a computer program is in every article about a specific computer program, or say where Hungary is when describing location in an article about a Hungarian town. This is a pretty non-standard way of doing things. I've changed the opening sentence so that the phrase "Eurovision Song Contest" is linked in the bold text, if that makes it any clearer. — Trilobite (Talk) 02:44, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Andorra

I heard that one of the backers for Andorra had represented Spain before. --Error 04:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

Yes, Anabel Conde, who finished 2nd, some years ago. --Waninoco 23:08, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My Number One (stolen???)

I am not sure but winner song was very similar to awaara hoon (A song from an old indian movie awaara).

Such a coward not to put your nickname!--Chronisgr 11:28, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This article is too long.

We're getting warning messages about it. I think we can safely delete the massive end section with "information" about each entry. Most of it is fluff and of limited interest.

Denmark's entry has to be shortened. The song list is irrelevant. All other festivals have a page for the specific year, and that's what has to be done for Denmark's Melodi Grand Prix to, even if it means creating a stub. └ VodkaJazz/talk┐ 14:45, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
We need to agree on this point. We can't have half of the editors adding stuff and another half cutting it out! └ VodkaJazz/talk┐ 11:47, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Swedish!

Helena Papirizou is born in Greece, but she lives in Sweden, gothenburg! She speaks swedish and have also competed for sweden before. After the ESC, every newspaper in Sweden wrote like Sweden almost won.. (because of Helena s Swedish!) --dankell


Oh c'mon that's so silly. Helena is Greek but raised in Sweden. She represented twice Greece and never Sweden. She speaks Greek,Swedish,English,French and Spanish. Helena loves Sweden & Greece!--Chronisgr 22:20, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Italy's participation?

What happened with Italy? Why did it not participate? landroni

They don't participate from long ago, and I don't know why. I think they got angry with some rule, but I'm not sure at all... --Waninoco 23:10, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
A small remark on this should be contained in the article, as it is really strange for Italy not to be mentioned anywhere. landroni 15:37, 26 May 2005 (CET)
Italy in the Eurovision Song Contest. Italy participated in the Eurovision Song Contest every year from 1956-1997, except 1981-1982, 1986, and 1994-1996. It has not participated in the contest since 1997. Still, why? landroni 15:43, 26 May 2005 (CET)
They are boycotting it. bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 13:51, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
Italy believed the contest was too old-fashioned and without relevance, and announced in the mid-ninties that it would no longer be taking part as a protest. It's national broadcaster doesn however remain a member of the EBU, leaving open the possibility, no matter how implausible, of italy's return. GerardT 02:05, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Italy are boycotting because of the votes to neighbouring countries without regard to the actual songs.

[edit] Runaway

GerardT, wasn't Malta also a favorite ? Maybe I'm of part but still... VodkaJazz 19:53, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Country in year pages =

The indivdual national information needs to be moved to the "Country in the Eurovision Song Contes t year" pages like: Germany in the Eurovision Song Contest 1956, United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest 1974, Russia in the Eurovision Song Contest 2006, et cetra