Talk:European exploration of Africa

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Contents 1 Only Portuguese? 2 Article Expanded 3 Style: copyediting 4 Copy edit 5 Image missing? 6 Copyedit 7 Gerard Way 8 "Totally outdated and partly racist"

[edit] Only Portuguese?

Why Are all these guys Portuguese? I'm sure there were explorers of Africa who weren't Portuguese... 22:34, 1 January 2006 67.70.15.235

Of course there were. Add them! The Ogre 12:22, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Actually all early explorers of Africa and the route to India and SE Asia (the Indies) were Portuguese or under Portuguese command. There was also a Papal bull (that in those times was like a UN Security Council resolution for Catholics) that gave exclussive rights in that region to Portugal. That's why the Castilians accepted Colombus wild idea of sailing west and looking for an alternative route.

Only later would first Dutch and then English, French, Danes and Spaniards arrive to Africa and the much wanted route of the Indies.

The "classical" age of exploration of inland Africa belongs to the late 19th century and it was, of course, in the hands of the main European powers of the time, apart of some US citizens. --85.84.232.213 16:13, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

This above was me: --Sugaar 19:55, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article Expanded

It took me several hours but it's done. I've removed the "expand" tag but left the "wikify" one, as some stuff, specially the 19th century section (that was the only thing existing before) should be retouched surely.

The above was also by Sugaar. Excellent job, my friend! The Ogre 01:44, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. Thanks, Ogre. It still needs a lot of Wikification, adding maps, images, improving specially the last sections. Etc. --Sugaar 04:51, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Style: copyediting

I've been reviewing all the text (except the last section that still needs a big push) and correcting all those silly changes in tense and other imperfections. Hopefully this qualifies to remove the copyedit banner but I'd like someone else to check before doing it. --Sugaar 18:06, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copy edit

I'd like to help copy edit this page. I made some changes to it last night. I want to learn more about history, so thank you for the great article. But it sounds like you're sick of it so after I finish reading it, maybe I can write a summary paragraph for the beginning. So--let me know if I accidently change the meaning of anything!

[edit] Image missing?

Seems like ther is an image missing in the 19th century part?

[edit] Copyedit

This article, or a portion of it, was copyedited by the League of Copyeditors in February 2007. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. Copyeditor(s): Szyslak 02:07, 17 February 2007 (UTC) Proofreader: Galena11 17:27, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Gerard Way

This article refers to an explorer called 'Gerard Way' but the link is to the singer from My Chemical Romance of the same name. I don't know if this is because the link points to the wrong man or if it's a joke by a fan, so I can't fix it.

Courtesy of Gavla 15:57, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure either. A quick google search turned up nothing on any explorer Gerard Way...so it seems at first glance to be incorrect or vandalism. John Pouliot 04:30, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Totally outdated and partly racist"

That comment added to the side of the main source of most of the article (I made a large review/expansion, that still stands, some time ago [1] based precisely on that book, and little or nothing more) has left me baffled.

I wonder how a 1972 history book may be "outdated", in a field that has surely had little advances in these late decades (it's not genetics or even Paleolithic archaeology, if you know what I mean). I guess the book may be less adequate to write a comprehensive history of Africa article but for the matter of this article, that is intrinsecally more "Eurocentric" (it's not "Bantu" nor "Arab" nor "Chinese exploration of Africa") it's surely quite valid.

Also I don't know why the author of the comment thinks it's "partly racist".

In any case, disqualifying the main source of about 80% of the article is like disqualifying the article itself. Yet, I see that no significative changes have been made, what rather qualifies it. Also, it's surely inappropiate to add such kind of comments to a source in the article itself (another thing would be discussing it in this talk page), so I am deleting it. --Sugaar (talk) 06:50, 18 November 2007 (UTC)