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[edit] Plot summary

I wonder if a general summary of the plotlines from S1 and S2 could be added, or should be added, to this page. Enigma3542002 05:18, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Series 2 Start Date

According to Irish entertainment listings, Sky One (Ireland) is on the same episode as Sky One (UK). This suggests both countries started showing Series 2 on the same date not 2 months apart. This makes sense as the only difference between the channels should be the adverts. 84.67.183.95 20:49, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Large deletion on 9 December 2007?

About 1/3 of the article was removed by an anonymous editor on December 9, 2007. I couldn't find any discussion or rationale for the removal of this material, and I propose that it be reinstated unless someone can come up with a good explanation. Comments? Richwales (talk) 21:21, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Which revision was it? Collectonian (talk) 22:36, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
The last good revision, prior to the series of deletions I'm objecting to, was this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eureka_%28TV_series%29&oldid=176848881
Richwales (talk) 03:12, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Do you mean the removal of the settings section? Per an edit on the 11th, it was copied straight from IMDB making it WP:COPYVIO. It also goes totally against the TV MOS and isn't really necessary. To start improving the article, I'd recommend looking at the MOS and the tags above to see what sections are appropriate and important and to see how to fix up the intro (way too short, lacks context, etc). Collectonian (talk) 03:28, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
I looked at the IMDb article on Eureka just now, and I was unable to find any material corresponding to the "Settings" section. Perhaps it was once there, but was later removed? If I'm mistaken, can you indicate exactly which subsection of the show's IMDb article contains the material in question?
In any event, I believe the material discussing the "Location of Eureka" is appropriate, not a straight copy from IMDb or anywhere else I'm aware of, and ought to be reinstated. Richwales (talk) 04:03, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
There is already location section. Two sections are not needed. Feel free to expand the location's section into prose, preferably with proper citations, though. It certainly needs clean up and expansion. I can't point to the section, because I'm not the editor who made the note. You may want to drop them a note to ask them about it. Collectonian (talk) 04:13, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
The current article contains information on filming locations, but not anything about where the fictional town of Eureka might be located. That's what I'm saying deserves to be put back — and it's not the same as the filming locations, so I don't agree that both concepts must (or even should) be incorporated into a single "location" section.
As for where (if anywhere) the disputed text occurs (or might have occurred) in the IMDb article, the material flagged as having come from IMDb (and removed a few days ago) was only the following one-sentence plot summary: The best minds in the US are tucked away in a remote town where they build futuristic inventions for the government's benefit. That one sentence was indeed copied from IMDb, but I see no evidence that the contents of the disputed "Setting" section came from IMdb.
Does anyone else out there have an opinion as to whether the material originally in the "Setting" section of this article should, or should not, be reinstated? Surely "Collectonian" and I are not the only two editors who care about this question — and although I suppose I have as much of a right to put the material back in as the anonymous 81.110.240.101 had to take it out, I'd prefer to see a consensus form here if possible, rather than just take action unilaterally. Richwales (talk) 04:32, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
True, in a way, on the locations, and I can see both sides there. The other place it would likely be appropriate is as a subsection under plot, though just giving the original a quick read, I think it might need some paring down and sourcing as well. :) Feel free to post over at the TV Project talk page to bring the article to the TV Project's attention, see if any other editors can offer some feedback. Our current style guide doesn't really address the issue, does it. Doh. Collectonian (talk) 04:41, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Great job working in the info! The image being used, though, was too big so I resized it for you. You need to go add a fair use rationale though, or it will get deleted in 7 days. If you need help with doing a fair use rationale for a screenshot, check out Image:Cain transformed.JPG for a template version you can copy and modify for it. Collectonian (talk) 02:40, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
There was a fair use rationale. At least, I thought the text originally on the image's page qualified as a fair use rationale. I've reworded it somewhat; hopefully it'll be good enough now? Richwales (talk) 02:52, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
No, that isn't considered a fair use rationale as it does not provide enough info and doesn't specify use in each artcle :) I've fixed it for you though. Collectonian (talk) 02:59, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Inspired by?

Monday Begins on Saturday--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 13:02, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Quite possibly, but it needs a source, otherwise it's just ORGed UK (talk) 20:04, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
What woudl you suggest? Writing to the writers of the show, and asking them if they plagiarised the Strugatskys?--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 00:59, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Why not? Though I would suggest you don't use the word plagerise ;) Ged UK (talk) 16:10, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
I find another possible real-life inspiration in the history of Richland, WA. This was a flyspeck town in Eastern Washington in the early 1940's that was taken over by the War Dept to build the first Atomic Bomb. The people who lived in the smaller towns of Hanford and White Bluffs were moved out, and the towns demolished. Richland went from a few hundred agricultural workers to 50,000+ people working in utter secrecy on the Manhatten Project. Even the homes in the town were owned by the Govt - if a light bulb burned out, the Army would send someone to replace it. Today, this legacy is still there in a town that has an unusually large number of Nuclear Scientists, a number of street names like Proton and Electron, and a High School whose mascot is 'The Bombers', complete with a green-and-yellow Mushroom cloud. Nothingofwater (talk) 20:26, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Oregon

Jack Carter's MySpace page lists that Eureka is located in Alabama, not Oregon. Is this a mistake (I realize that Alabama is not in the Pacific Northwest)? Chronolegion (talk) 02:10, 28 April 2008 (UTC)