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Contents 1 Sphere of Influence 2 Rosmerta 3 New York City 4 Etymology

[edit] Sphere of Influence

I doubt "was a god of agriculture, war and commerce" which is a lot to draw from two statues. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by NantonosAedui (talk • contribs) on 19 June 2005.

Agreed. I've slashed and burnt a lot of this article, but it's all so that new green shoots will have a place to grow. QuartierLatin1968 21:44, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rosmerta

Removed "He was married to Rosmerta." as incorrect (Rosmerta was the female companion of Mercury, in Gaul; there are only two depictions of Esus, neither with Rosmerta. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by NantonosAedui (talk • contribs) on 19 June 2005.

[edit] New York City

"He is also an up and coming cultural phenomenon is the United States and can be seen in and around New York City." - Vandalism? -- 8^D BD2412^gab 20:29, 2005 Apr 25 (UTC)

That or advertisement. --Tydaj 22:20, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Etymology

The etymological origin of the name Jesus is Semitic (ישוע), that of Zeus is Indo-European (*dyeus). I can't think how these names could be etymologically linked. Q·L·1968 ☿ 15:59, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

It does say this the Esus-Jesus connection was conjured up by Iolo, correct? There' not much logic to that guy's though patterns.--Cúchullain ^t/c 20:59, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Iolo did say it. He may not have been the very first, but I suspect he was, since he was kind of at the cutting edge of Celtic revivalist pseudo-scholarship. The link between Esus and Jesus, although commonly mooted, is specious; still more so is any link between Jesus and Zeus (which I've never even seen mentioned before). Q·L·1968 ☿ 21:37, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I see what you're saying. But the article doesn't claim there's a link between Jesus and Zeus, does it? Just that Iolo associated Jesus with Esus, and someone else associated Esus with Zeus.--Cúchullain ^t/c 21:56, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Did I misunderstand the intended meaning of "the etymological relationship between the theonyms Zeus and Jesus"? Perhaps the author meant "between Zeus and Esus on the one hand and between Jesus and Esus on the other". Cheers, Q·L·1968 ☿ 20:48, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I was confused as to what we were talking about here. I now see you mean the line you removed. The Esus-Jesus connection is okay to keep as something made up by Iolo, and the Esus-Zeus connection would be okay if (a.) it was a real suggestion and (b.) it was sourced. The further leap between Jesus and Zeus is nonsense, and you were right to remove it.--Cúchullain ^t/c 21:56, 24 February 2007 (UTC)