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Contents 1 delete 2 Master Jay's RfA 3 vandalism 4 My RfA 5 All or None 6 Moved Irish-Americans back 7 List of Americans of Irish Descent 8 List of Irish-Americans 9 Admin? 10 Dechronifying 11 Welcome to VandalProof! 12 Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Israelbeach 13 What is your stance towards Esperanza? 14 max button 15 Muslim Council of Britain 16 Thanks for voting on my RfA 17 Bosco 18 Oxymorons/Oxymora 19 rfa thanks 20 warnings????!?!?! 21 Vandalism 22 I see you're dealing with the 82.198.250.* vandals... 23 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rationales to impeach George W. Bush (2nd nomination) 24 I find your lack of faith... disturbing. 25 To talk to you, one-on-one 26 Mathcounts 27 Sorry 28 Wikipedia:WikiProject NBL 29 my bot 30 Sorry 31 Lake Lafayette (Tallahassee, Florida) 32 Sincere Apologies 33 Gallipoli 34 I forgot about that 34.1 Reply 35 Deletion 36 Dude 37 User:209.57.92.138 38 Userfy 39 RE: Futurology in Wikipedia 40 Articles for deletion/Religion of Peace 41 Mathcounts 42 VandalProof 1.2 Now Available 43 Personal Attack 44 Tag

[edit] delete

Are you sure chicagos low rent district was an attack page? You deleted it immediately after it was vandalized into an personal attack page, now i can't see the history but it looked (at a glance) legitimate, at lease it had a few seperate users editing it. --Darkfred ^{Talk to me} 23:44, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

• Ok, thanks for checking, I just wanted to make sure. Feel free to delete this comment if you want. --Darkfred ^{Talk to me} 23:50, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Master Jay's RfA

Hey there ESkog! Thanks for your support at my recent RfA. If you ever have a concern, leave me a note. Thanks --Jay(Reply) 02:54, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] vandalism

Hi There, You left me a message (to IP address 152.91.9.115, I wasn't signed in) regarding vandalism to the Political Correctness article. I removed those three sentences because I thought they were false, or at least unencyclopedic. “Aborigine” is a noun and “aboriginal” is an adjective – the removed sentence, as well as not referencing that “aborigine” is declining in use, also didn’t explain why the use of an adjective rather than a noun is “PC”. Also, the term "Torres Strait Islander" is not 'recent' having been used for at least 40 years. I thought the overall impression was misleading and the information unreferenced (and false), so I deleted it rather then “rephrase”. Assuming you have no objection, I will re-remove those sentences tonight. -Mb99 04:34, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Well that went amazingly well. Thank you for the nominating me. I think that your well worded nomination helped to pave the way for my successful candidancy - those editors who weren't familiar with me were able to grasp from your nomination what my strengths were. Thank you, so much. -- No Guru 04:45, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] All or None

You can't make the move for some pages if not all pages. AR120346 18:52, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moved Irish-Americans back

I moved List of Irish-Americans back to that page. Funny how no one seemed to have a problem with it when it was done to the Irish. I guess that's just goes in with the long history of descrimination in America towards Irish. AR120346 18:56, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Americans of Irish Descent

It's the only page that hasn't been deleted, don't tell me you don't descriminate against Irish. AR120346 18:58, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Irish-Americans

If none of the others groups at at "List of Americans of ___ descent" then the Irish shouldn't be there either. One editor has put them back there. The Irish should stay at "List of Irish-Americans" untill all groups are moved to a new title. AR120346 19:03, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Admin?

Thanks for the vote of confidence. I was nominated in January of this year, but failed to get the necessary percentage (most 'oppose' votes felt that I was too new at the time). Do you think enough time has passed for another shot? OhNoitsJamie^Talk 20:50, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dechronifying

FYI - I've re-deleted Shultz IV's article Dechronifying as a recreation of the AFD'd article Dechronification. I pointed him to WP:DRV as I expect he will want to contest this deletion. However, as you may know, Dechronification went to DRV once already, where it did not find support. FreplySpang (talk) 14:34, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

P.S. the DRV discussion can be seen in [this diff], in which Shultz withdrew it from consideration. FreplySpang (talk) 14:40, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

How long is Freply's memory??? If she's a mid-30s who has bigger fish to fry (i.e. more important things) in her life, having to work on graduate studies, (possibly) raise a family, and deal with thousands of other issues on Wikipedia, don't you think she could've forgotten about the whole Dechronification issue by now?

One of my pet peeves is when someone has a LONG memory about the negative things involving me. If they were positive, I wouldn't mind but negative long-term memories trouble me because times change, and so do people. When they still consider those memories however, that implies that they don't acknowledge that. --Shultz IV 18:08, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to VandalProof!

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, ESkog! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. Prodego ^talk 04:41, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Israelbeach

I would like to bring to your attention that I have filed a request for comment on User:Israelbeach's conduct: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Israelbeach --Woggly 11:34, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What is your stance towards Esperanza?

Hi, I'm curious as to why you haven't joined Esperanza yet? Knowing you, you would even be a GREAT advisory council member there. I plan on joining Esperanza when I prove to their Admin-General and their Advisory Council that I can work on Wikipedia with the same standards that they have. --Shultz IV 21:08, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] max button

this is outrageous. i want to sue you. i was just writing an interesting article about a famous guy and you delted it.need more explanation ASAP —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.70.21.10 (talk • contribs) 16:59, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Muslim Council of Britain

Thanks for the revert here, I hadn't spotted it. Sadly this entry did start off quite contentiously, hopefully the "tar-all-with-a-single-brush" brigade will give up on it. PhilipPage 21:47, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for voting on my RfA

Thanks so much for voting! Thanks so much for voting on my request for adminship. I have decided to withdraw my nomination as it seems that consensus will not be reached. If you voted in support, thanks for putting your trust in me to be a good admin. If you voted in opposition, thank you as well for your criticism as it will only help me be a better Wikipedian and perhaps help if/when I apply for adminship again sometime in the future.

--Mets501^{talk • contribs} 01:29, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bosco

Freezing the page cooled off the argument. I think that the text proposed by JM Rasor can be used. No one has objected to it, and then the page can be unprotected. -- evrik 13:53, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oxymorons/Oxymora

Where are you ultimately wanting this page to be? With admin tools I can merge two pages with histories and leave the rest as empty redirects, if that's what you want. Leave a note on my talk page. (ESkog)^(Talk) 01:36, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

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When I wandered in, "List of oxymora" had content and "List of oxymorons" redirected. Then i noticed that someone decided to swap the article and the redirector. (Spelling preference.) I agree, let it happen. (No complete straw poll, but the pretentious old spelling exceeds many peoples' threshold of annoyance, as mentioned on the discussion page. Someone finally acted. I doubt the changed version will annoy anyone enough to change it back.

Next, I noticed that "Talk:List of oxymora" had content and "Talk:List of oxymorons" did not exist. That is, the other user moved the page but did not move the talk page. So I tried the Move button and it worked. (Yay!)

Next, I thought, "Why did that user "move" the article page by cross-pasting the contents?" (When you do it that way, the History does not follow.)

So, I tried reverting both pages, intending to do a real "Move". Then I got stuck. You can't move a page onto its redirect, if that redirect has History. (Logical, I guess?) I then tried moving the redirecting page away, but that act leaves behind a redirect. The new redirect has no history, but it does not point back to the parent page either, so again NO DICE. Maybe the system needs a SWAP method, whereby one can swap a page and its redirect (and their histories?)? Something to think about. (Or else that's where the administrators come in.)

Your proposal sounds right. If you can, (1) wash out the cyclical edits i just did, (2) consolidate the histories under the page with content ("List of oxymorons"), (3) make "List of oxymora" a 'fresh' redirect, (4) burn the unintended "List Of Oxymora" page

Whiner01 02:03, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] rfa thanks

Thanks for the support on my RFA. Unfortunately, it did not achieve consensus. I look forward to your support in a couple months when I apply again. Holler at me if you need anything. ⇒ SWATJester ^Ready Aim _Fire! 01:10, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] warnings????!?!?!

I have numerous warnings from you about vandilization and me being homophobic?????? I have NEVER written anything in wikipedia, why does it say that I have done all these horrible things???? I can't believe that someone would insult me on a personal level just because they assume I have done something; I am deeply hurt that you would call me homophobic- my college education is in defending people from discrimination, why on earth would i discriminate against anyone? I would also never think of vandalizing the site, i didn't even know i could delete or rewrite things on here! In using this website i understand that it is public opinion and not fact, and why would i have the right to change or vandalize anyone elses opinions and/or beliefs? If i don't agree w/ something on your site, i just go to another site that includes factual information to be used as a real reference. You have no right to resort to name-calling with customers of this site, how dare you!207.200.116.203 09:19, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm not really sure what you're talking about, since I don't see any warnings signed by me on your talk page. I'm sure, too, that I would never call another user homophobic - show me the link to whatever in the world you're talking about. Since this is AOL, and they assign IP addresses strangely, you will almost definitely receive warnings which are not meant for you. Your complaint is not with me, but with AOL. (ESkog)^(Talk) 16:05, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

ESkog is right. Many users (including the less scrupulous ones) use AOL and the IP you left your message here with could have been used by a vandal just several hours prior. They assign IPs to one AOL customer for a time, and then assign the same IPs to a different AOL user some time later. Also, I recommend switching to a different ISP. AOL's monthly fees are far too high ($23.90/month for Dial-up!? Many other ISPs offer lower-priced services) and plenty more can be said negatively about the company. --Shultz IV 17:47, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

82.198.250.74 and related IPs have been spamming wikipedia with nonsense. I've been trying to hunt it all down, but I think we're past the last straw here and should have them blocked. - Richardcavell 11:33, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I see you're dealing with the 82.198.250.* vandals...

Could you block this one too? - Richardcavell 11:56, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rationales to impeach George W. Bush (2nd nomination)

You are invited to vote at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rationales to impeach George W. Bush (2nd nomination). All this is is ramblings/blog/rants about Bush. Not encyclopedic, should've been deleted long ago. Happy editing! Morton devonshire 18:20, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I find your lack of faith... disturbing.

Dear ESkog/Archive9,

Thanks for voting on my RFA! I appreciate your comments and constructive criticism, for every bit helps me become a better Wikipedian. I've started working on the things you brought up, and I hope that next time, things run better; who knows, maybe one day we'll be basking on the shore of Admintopia together. Thanks and cheers, _-M o P-_ 22:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] To talk to you, one-on-one

I went through a harrowing time tonight. For more info, please visit #ShultzIV on freenode IRC. I'll be headed to bed, so please stay in that chatroom and maybe tell me anything new you'd want to share so I can review it later. I'd like to talk to you there later today. --Shultz IV 08:56, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mathcounts

Are there any suggestions you might have for the ThingstoKnow.pdf file that I put on the MathCounts page on external links? Or is this file for some reason inappropriate? Check out my modified arrangement and tell me whether I may put this up: www.olemiss.edu/~sswatson/mathcounts.html Tuphlouandros 14:31, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

Some one here wanted my to appologize for vandalism to Barney and Friends is where i do that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 168.212.147.254 (talk • contribs) 21:06, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject NBL

Hey ESkog/Archive9

I noticed that you have made several edits in basketball, and I would like you to join WikiProject NBL. Please drop a line on my talk page and put your name on the participants list if interested.

Cheers, Jasrocks 06:24, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] my bot

Like i said, my bot isn't fully automated, so sometimes I end up editing the page myself. When this happens I watch for db-bio pages and add the tag along with fixing spelling errors. Er...I guess I'll limit bot usage to spelling, and tag pages for speedy from my regular account. Or, I could convert my bot into a "check for nn bios" bot and change the edit summary permanently... ok thx for notifying me. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 22:05, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

Was just trying to help with the pink floyd page. --BuddyJesus 00:39, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lake Lafayette (Tallahassee, Florida)

I have a suspicion that the user who tagged this for deletion actually meant to tag Lake Lafayette (Tallahassee, Florida (note the missing right parenthesis) instead. I've restored it, and reverted to the last good version. I think this is a better solution. Feel free to disagree and so on :) Stifle (talk) 18:18, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sincere Apologies

I just learned how to use Wikipedia. I made external links on one of the pages I edited before realizing the mistake. I have since added similar material as external links. Otherwise, I believe the other edits I made were very reasonable. The site I am linking to (Art of Problem Solving) is a sponsor and associate of the AMC, hosting a *free* large forum used by thousands of students. If those external links to the AMC forum are not permitted, I will stop posting them, though I am curious as to why that's not okay (they are free resources).

I'm not yet comfortable with this form of communication, but my email is crawford@artofproblemsolving.com if you wish further correspondence. I'll avoid external links in the main pages, but add the forums in. I would like to add other free resources into other links, but I'll try to judge from the spirit of Wikipedia. Numerous of the links are just problem archives, which seem also reasonable to me. I hope I don't rub anyone the wrong way. Our site is not exactly a large corporate interest and provide enormous amounts of free material at what is currently an overall loss. I plan also to create Wikipedia entries for scholarship competitions and some other resources for math students. I will not post another link to our books pages unless I'm otherwise told that it's reasonable.

[edit] Gallipoli

137.52.210.20 is still vandalising; want to do the honours? EvocativeIntrigue 18:21, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I forgot about that

Look, I'm sorry; I completely forgot that you didn't want to make your personal information public. Now that you mention it, we did have this discussion at least over a month ago. Lately, I've felt worried that I've been forgetting more often. What can I do about this because forgetting can be harmful and even destructive in certain ways.

How long am I on this "probation"? What can I do to earn lifting the probation early?

About email communication- I didn't think it correlated. What does that have to do with it?

I meant well with the friendly request of if it was OK to upload your photo and maybe put it on your user page but honestly, if I had remembered that you didn't want any more personal info posted here, I wouldn't have uploaded and asked in the first place.

Forgetfulness is my worst enemy nowadays. I don't know how much longer I will last here as long as this looms over me. My life and survival as a Wikipedian now seems so fragile. How can I possibly cope?

Also, how long will it take and what can I do to earn back my emailing privileges to you?

I hope to restore the cordiality of this mentorship. --Shultz IV 21:36, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

Oh no, this doesn't bode well for me (at least feelings-wise, maybe more than that...) If I wanted to discuss with you about something I prefer no one else reads, then and there, and I couldn't wait for you to log on, that's what email would be for. As long as I don't ask you for personal info in your email (and I won't try regardless), what's there to worry about? (I hope you don't interpret any of what I say in a negative way. I don't want my messages to inadvertently make things worse.)

Your reply also didn't lift the aura of fragility on our mentorship and my survival on Wikipedia. What if 2,500 edits down the line, I inadvertently post something someone construes as giving away others' personal info? No matter how good the 2,499 other edits were, I fear that saying something as benign-looking as "(username) likes to play 'Halo 2'" could be construed as that and therefore earn me an indef-block, a termination of the mentorship, and it would all be horrible. I have a feeling that I, the person, wouldn't be allowed back either, even with a completely different username.

I don't want to live in fear while contributing to Wikipedia. I wish for the atmosphere of our mentorship to again be as warm and friendly as it was before uploading the photo. As long as this probation persists, I don't know how long it will be before that previous atmosphere gets restored.

I read from other people that, to paraphrase, making a lot of good contributions gives users extra "second-chance tokens" so that in case they forget and break a rule thousands of edits down the line, that they broke thousands of edits ago, they would be forgiven and given a warning whereas they would've gotten a block if they broke the same rule just 100 edits later. I hope this applies to me too because we all forget occasionally and try to edit in good faith while others sometimes misconstrue them as bad-faith edits. (I hope I've been saying what I mean accurately.)

Minutes ago, I invited you to a private chatroom so we could discuss this. You haven't responded so unless you're AFK for a while, this is also worrying me. (I knew you were online because I had the client notify when you log on and off. If you didn't see the invitation, it might have been a glitch.) I've also put some of my latest thoughts on my userpage. Feel free to take a look. --Shultz IV 23:20, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion

Why did you delete Template:User browser hate:Microsoft Internet Explorer? Do you know how many pages linked there? Can't you restore it so you can get the code and get a bot to subst it? --GeorgeMoney ^T·C 22:23, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dude

Why persecuteth me? Look at my wounds, brother. We are both Irishmen, so let me fix Dorsey the Wog's face for him. - stroun —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.255.236.34 (talk • contribs) 03:59, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:209.57.92.138

Just a note to let you know that User:209.57.92.138 also vandalized two other Wikipedia articles today. See this user's talk page for the vandalism warnings I posted. -- backburner001 17:48, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Userfy

To address your concern in your deletion summary, I have gone through and either removed the userfy tag where I saw fit, or proposed them to the relevant deletion process per WP:UFY, such that all articles with the tag have been cleared. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 16:33, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Futurology in Wikipedia

Aren't these enough? :

• Death is an Outrage by Robert A. Freitas Jr.
• "Death Is An Outrage" an essay about the evils of death in the world, and how it will be countered.
• Nanotech-related News Article about nano-detoxification and eventually dechronification

How many more sources do I need for it to be considered "well sourced"? --Shultz IV 17:12, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok, here's the deal- as soon as Dechronification gets talked about in Scientific American and/or any other magazine found in a college library, would the article be worthy of a repost? I think so; what do you think? --Shultz IV 13:46, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Articles for deletion/Religion of Peace

Since you've voted on the last AfD which resulted in DELETE, you might be interested, that the article is still here and I've created another AfD for it. Raphael1 18:04, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mathcounts

Why did you delete my link to a pdf version of the Mathcounts Bible? Tuphlouandros 01:01, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VandalProof 1.2 Now Available

[edit] Personal Attack

I may be feeling a bit touchy today but could you have a word with the person who called me a genius? [1] (Pally01 15:06, 21 May 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Tag

My bad, would you happen to know a better tag for a image like that?