Talk:ESFJ
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This article was nominated for deletion on 13 April 2008. The result of the discussion was keep. |
Citations are needed on the list of famous people of this type (and the other types as well). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.61.30.212 (talk) 22:28, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Type Descriptions
I just deleted the descriptions on all of these personality types. A lot of them were copyvios from different sources, several of them being from http://www.geocities.com/lifexplore/ , where they may or may not have been copied from other locations. Nonetheless, the three theories of MBTI, Keirsey Temperaments, and Socionics are quite different and require different descriptions of types, functions, relations, and other concepts. Socionics especially differs from the other two. The three theories should all be expanded upon in Wikipedia, but it is impossible to do this while there is a conglomeration of these three theories and they are treated as one and the same. Niffweed17, Destroyer of Chickens 00:59, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Famous ESFJs
I strongly recommend that this section be deleted. The information may be fun, but it has no place in an encyclopedia. There's no factual basis for the claim that William McKinley, for example, was an ESFJ. Such unscientific speculation is fodder for skeptics. It screams 'pop psyschology' and casts doubt on the integrity of the entire system. A link to the Keirsey site would make the information available to interested readers without undermining the validity of this article.
If you feel you must include it on the Wikipedia site, it should be under the Keirsey role variant (Provider) rather than the Myers-Briggs type. Speculation about a person's type is considered unethical in Myers-Briggs. ThreeOfCups (talk) 02:13, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Removed Bill Clinton from this list, since Keirsey identifies him as an ESFP. ThreeOfCups (talk) 18:00, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Templates
I created templates for text that's the same across all 16 MBTI type articles to eliminate the hours of work it takes to update the same text 16 times. This is a recommended use for templates according to Wikipedia policy WM:TEMP.
To edit the templates:
1. Click the Edit link on the section of the article you want to change.
2. Select and copy the title of the template page (the text between the double braces).
3. Paste the copied text into the Wikipedia search box and press Go (not Search).
This will take you to the template. Make sure that the changes you make to the templates are appropriate for all 16 MBTI type articles! (ENFJ, ISTP, etc.) ThreeOfCups (talk) 03:34, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Spelling of Extraversion
The MBTI, Keirsey Temperament Sorter, and related Jung Typology assessments use the original spelling, Extraversion, rather than the modern corruption, Extroversion. In this context, Extraversion is jargon and should be thus spelled. ThreeOfCups (talk) 15:03, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
