Talk:Escape the Fate

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This band may seem not notable to the average wiki editor, but I assure you they are. Please do some research on the band before you decide to delete them. Their popularity has exploded within the last few months. I was very surprised to find that Wikipedia did not have a page on them yet. Recently they were singed to Epitaph Records and their EP is sellign extremely well as proved on the Smartpunk website. Avenged Evanfold 20:54, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Content

Perhaps you could provide some content for the article then, before someone trigger-happy slaps a speedy on it? Dweller 21:03, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey bring back my article, I want it back, I didnt even get a chance to defenc myself! Did i not just nake it clear that they are new, have very little work produced, btu are hugely popular? JUST a myspace? Is Tila Tequila JUST a myspace account? Dont mess aroudn when I ask you not to mess aroudn with things you dont understand! Avenged Evanfold 21:04, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Seriously, I dont even know who deleted it, bring it back right now and explain YOURSELF! Dont delete articles and then dissapear like a sneaky little... forget it, I'll just recreate it. Avenged Evanfold 21:07, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

? It's still there. As explained above, I didn't put a tag on it. Dweller 21:08, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
(it was recreated) AE: Work the process. Ask a sympathetic admin to restore it to your userspace and work on it, citing verifiable sources, to establish notability, and once you've had some non involved people look at it and say they think it would pass, de-userify it back to article space. Note, if you apologise to Allison and stop demanding undeletion I will happily userify it if asked politely on my talk page. OR... take it to DRV and make your case that it should be undeleted and taken through AfD. But storming around won't help you or your case. And whatever you do, don't recreate speedy deleted content without involving others, admins first. Work politely and civilly... you may achieve what you want. OR... continue storming around and get a block for your trouble. Your choice. ++Lar: t/c 21:50, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

forget about it, ill just rewrite it later, she doesnt care. im not gonna swear because you all want to pretend youre so smart and above that. so hee it is, delete this page if you have the authority and then i'll bring it back later.Avenged Evanfold 21:55, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay i made the article again, and you cant delete it because they have an allmusic entry, among other reasons for notability. Avenged Evanfold 16:56, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


Why is Omar removed from the article as a member? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.88.47.250 (talk) 08:14, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I believe it was suggested that you work in your userspace. Please review our music notability guidelines. Having an allmusic entry is not necessarily evidence of notability. Which of the criteria does this band satisfy? I'll hold off on actually nominating this for deletion for a little bit, to give you time to put that info into the article, but I can't promise others won't. ++Lar: t/c 05:18, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

There is something wrong...at the end of the article there is something about ronnie having a sexual relation with a dog in order to be accepted back in the band or something...someone fix it. Bye. 213.140.21.231 18:01, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Why didn't YOU fix it? You made other edits. But, anyway, I guess I'll have to remove it, also please stop removing the part about Ronnie leaving the band. It is true, just look at the official MySpace. ╦ﺇ₥₥€Ԋ(talk/contribs) 21:46, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Theres no sympathy for the dead.jpg

Image:Theres no sympathy for the dead.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

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[edit] References

I've added the {{refimprove}} tag to this article, because there are no independent sources. Corvus cornix 18:58, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup and Expanding

I've cleaned up this article and expanded it as much as I could not knowing anything about the band, but someone needs to expand it. It was written like an ad on the band and many parts of the article were not consistent with other parts. If anyone could help clarify some information and expand the article, I'd be grateful. Thanks. ╦ﺇ₥₥€Ԋ (talk) 01:06, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Uk Tour

Might want to mention they promised a UK tour due to being unable to play TOC. [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.159.86.131 (talk) 21:55, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Craig Mabbitt

I still say we should find a better source :D ~Ambrosia- talk 20:08, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

I think the source that's there is fine. It seems like a reliable source. Timmeh! 23:59, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image

Uncyclopedia has a picture of them here, but i doubt it would be acceptable...♠♦Д narchistPig♥♣ (talk) 21:06, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

LOL at that! That's pretty cool but i somehow doubt wikipdia would accept it :P Riverpeopleinvasion (talk) 21:10, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Lol. Nice one. It actually probably would be acceptable. You could put it up and see if it gets removed or not. Timmeh! 21:16, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Well,I went for it. Lets see what happens.♠♦Д narchistPig♥♣ (talk) 20:22, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Likely WP:NONFREE and maybe WP:BLP problems with that image. Chubbles (talk) 21:14, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Not sure about NONFREE but possibly BLP for being possibly slightly libelious...If anyone thinks its in blatant violation of something just remove/delete it i guess...♠♦Д narchistPig♥♣ (talk) 21:22, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
I see no indication that the image of ETF has been released under any circumstances, and so fails WP:NONFREE. Also, this is a BLP no-brainer. Come on, guys. Chubbles (talk) 21:33, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Eh. Whatever. Nothing ventured nothing gained, I guess.♠♦Д narchistPig♥♣ (talk) 21:53, 28 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] User: Ronnierocks555

Guys, I know this might be obvious. But this user is constantly reverting this page and adding uncited info. Especially the part relating to an old band member Ronnie. Which makes one ponder if its actually the band member. Needless to say, we're going to do some research on the topic. Until then, please make sure his posts are constructive and not superfluous. Thanks! --InvisibleDiplomat666 17:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

There are already two sources stating that Radke has left the band and has been replaced by Craig Mabbit. If these people disagree, let them state their arguments here on the talk page. But as long as they don't, their edits will just be reverted. I believe they are all just fans of the band and won't accept that Radke has left. Timmeh! 18:39, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't believe there is any official source though that states that Ronnie isn't part of the band. If there is please tell me, it should be official though. NTAEndar (talk) 04:24, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

As long as reliable sources are cited, it doesn't need to be "official" (from the band itself). Timmeh! 20:15, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Craigs only temporary

Shouldn't the fact craigs only a temporary singer be mentioned because he isn't their actual singer yet, in the members section that is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.53.69 (talk) 02:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC)