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[edit] album section

Hi! to avoid another controversy, I want to ask if it would be better for the "Album" section if it was divided under "studio", "compilations", "live" and "EPs" like most if not all discography articles do! And plus it makes those links on the Infobox useful!! Notice also the table structure changes, collected the singles that had the same year or album, and I made a small table for singles as a featured performer. It would all look like this:


[edit] Terra Promessa 1998

It does not matter whether it's a redone version included along with other remixes in the compilation Eros, the fact and the matter is that it was chosen to be released as a single within Central Europe [1] [2]. Consequently, it should be included as a single within the singles' table.--Harout72 (talk) 20:56, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

By the way, this link [3] from the edit-history says:
What should not be included 
  • 1.Tracklistings, B-sides, or any other description of the tracks on a release. Remember, this is a discography not a songography, so we're mostly concerned with the release, not every song on that release.
  • 2.Bootlegs, unless officially released.
  • 3.Non-original or previously-released material used on soundtracks, trailers, commercials, or any other compilation releases.
  • 4.Un-released material.
  • 5.Releases by other artists as a tribute or cover.

The #3 could also be applied to singles Cose della vita, Fuoco nel fuoco. As for #2 it was officially released as a single.--Harout72 (talk) 21:12, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree. That's why we should remove the Tina Turner version and Fuego en el fuego. I just never thought of that! Udonknome (talk) 01:48, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
You are misinterpreting your very own link which you seem to be quite fond of, I meant it as a sarcasm in hopes that maybe it would help you understand it better. Please read closely the point #3 Non-original or previously-released material used on soundtracks, trailers, commercials, or any other compilation releases, it nowhere mentions anything about studio-redone versions especially featuring other artists. If you still dilly-dally, now read point #2 unless officially released, meaning they all could be included within the table because they all have been officially released including Terra Promessa.--Harout72 (talk) 04:51, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Eros Ramazzotti Discography

Eros Ramazzotti discography
Image:Eros Ramazzotti gallery.jpg
Eros Ramazzotti
Releases
Studio albums 9
Live albums 2
Compilation albums 2
Extended plays 1
Singles 31
References and footnotes


This is the discography of Eros Ramazzotti, one of the most successful Italian singers and songwriters of all time [1].

[edit] Albums

All regularly released albums and their chart peak position in Italy (ITA), German Top 100 Singles (GER 100), Switzerland (SUI), Austria (AUT), the Netherlands (NL), France (FR), Finland (FIN), Sweden (SWE), Belgium (BEL), Norway (NOR), Portugal (POR).


[edit] Studio albums

Year Album Chart positions
ITA GER SUI AUT NL FRA FIN SWE BEL NOR POR
1985 Cuori agitati 10 - 5 - - - - - - - -
1986 Nuovi eroi 1 - 1 1 - - - 29 - - -
1987 In certi momenti 1 - 3 5 21 - - - - - -
1990 In ogni senso 1 - 1 5 2 - - 34 - 10 -
1993 Tutte storie
Todo historias
1 - 1 1 3 - - 4 - 5 1
1996 Dove c'è musica
Donde hay música
1 - 1 1 5 10 6 1 1 8 -
2000 Stilelibero
Estilo libre
2 - 1 3 9 3 9 15 6 17 -
2003 9
9 - (Spanish version)
1 2 1 2 5 5 9 14 3 6 27
2005 Calma apparente 1 4 1 2 4 5 15 20 12 - 22
Other charts
Year Album Chart Peak
2000 Stilelibero Top World Music Albums 14


[edit] Live albums

Year Album Chart positions
ITA SUI AUT NL FRA SWE NOR
1991 Eros in Concert 4 21 - 23 - - -
1998 Eros Live 15 6 12 44 7 46 38

[edit] Compilations

Year Album Chart positions
ITA GER SUI AUT NL FRA FIN SWE BEL NOR
1997 Eros
Eros - (Spanish version)
1 1 1 1 1 3 4 5 6 1
2007 1 2 1 3 5 6 - 1 11 2

[edit] EPs

Year Album Chart positions
ITA SUI AUT NL
1988 Musica è 2 2 10 7

[edit] Singles

Released singles and their chart peak position in Italian Top 50 Singles (IT 50), German Top 100 Singles (GER 100), Swiss Singles Top 100 (SUI), Austrian Singles Top 75 (AUT 75), the Dutch Top 40 (NL 40), , Swedish Top 60 Singles (SWE 60), , French Top 100 Singles (FR 100), Norwegian Top 20 Singles (NOR 20), Spain Top 20 Singles (SPA 20) .

[edit] Version 1

Year Single Chart positions Album
ITA GER SWI AUT NL SWE FRA NOR SPA EUR
1984 Terra promessa - - - - - - - - - - Cuori agitati
1985 Una storia importante 1 - 7 - - - 2 - - -
1986 Adesso tu 1 - 1 1 - - - - - 5 Nuovi eroi
1986 Un cuore con le ali - - - 21 - - - - - -
1987 Ma che bello questo amore - - 21 19 9 - - - - - In certi momenti
1988 Musica è - - - - 12 - - - - - Musica è
1990 Se bastasse una canzone - 19 7 15 2 - 11 10 - - In ogni senso
1990 Amarti è l'immenso per me - - - 23 - - - - - -
1990 Dolce Barbara - - - - 24 - - - - -
1993 Cose della vita
Cosas de la vida
4 30 7 15 12 15 14 4 - 2 Tutte storie
1993 Un'altra te
Otra como tú
- - 11 - - - - 14 - -
1996 Più bella cosa
La cosa más bella
1 17 6 9 23 22 8 - - 10 Dove c'è musica
1997 Quanto amore sei
Cuanto amor
2 - 6 17 84 42 - - - - Eros
1998 Cose della vita - Can't Stop Thinking Of You
Cosas de la vida (Can't Stop Thinking of You)
(feat. Tina Turner)
- 4 7 10 4 37 6 - - 6
1998 Terra promessa[4] - - 46 - 84 - - - - -
Year Single Chart positions Album
ITA GER SWI AUT NL SWE FRA NOR SPA EUR
2000 Fuoco nel fuoco 1 50 4 29 79 - 21 - - 8 Stilelibero
2001 Più che puoi
(with Cher)
20 61 17 - 43 - 42 - - 32
2000 L'ombra del gigante 27 - 52 74 - - 57 - - 16
2001 Un angelo non è - - 32 - - - - - - -
2001 Per me per sempre - - 69 - 85 - - - - -
2003 Un' emozione per sempre
Una emoción para siempre
1 35 1 31 43 - 61 - 1 18 9
2003 Un attimo di pace 12 87 34 - 84 - - - 14 -
2004 Solo ieri - - 59 - 96 - - - - -
2004 Ti vorrei rivivere - - 56 - - - - - - -
2005 La nostra vita
Nuestra vida
1 - 6 36 - - - - - 17 Calma apparente
2006 I Belong to You (il ritmo della passione)
(feat. Anastacia)
1 1 1 2 6 - - - - 2
2006 Bambino nel tempo 15 - 40 - - - - - - 57
2007 Non siamo soli
No estamos solos
(feat. Ricky Martin)
1 32 3 45 - - - - 25 12
2008 Il tempo tra di noi 10 - - - - - - - - 69
2008 Fuoco nel fuoco
Fuego en el fuego
(feat. Carlos Santana)
- - - - - - - - 19 -
2008 Ci parliamo da grandi
Somos grandes o no
4 - - - - - - - - 40

[edit] Version 2

Year Single Chart positions Album
ITA GER SWI AUT NL SWE FRA NOR SPA EUR
1984 Terra promessa - - 46 - - - - - - - Cuori agitati
1985 Una storia importante 1 - 7 - - - - - - -
1986 Adesso tu 1 - 1 1 - - - - - 5 Nuovi eroi
Un cuore con le ali - - - 21 - - - - - -
1987 Ma che bello questo amore - - 21 19 9 - - - - - In certi momenti
1989 Musica è - - - - 12 - - - - - Musica è
1990 Se bastasse una canzone - 19 7 15 2 - 11 10 - - In ogni senso
Amarti è l'immenso per me - - - 23 - - - - - -
Dolce Barbara - - - - 24 - - - - -
1993 Cose della vita
Cosas de la vida
4 30 7 15 12 15 14 4 - 2 Tutte storie
Un'altra te
Otra como tú
- - 11 - - - - 14 - -
1996 Più bella cosa
La cosa más bella
1 17 6 9 23 22 8 - - 10 Dove c'è musica
1997 Quanto amore
Cuanto amor
2 - 6 17 84 42 - - - -
1998 Cose della vita - Can't Stop Thinking Of You
Cosas de la vida (Can't Stop Thinking of You)
(feat. Tina Turner)
- 4 7 10 4 37 6 - - 6 Eros
Year Single Chart positions Album
ITA GER SWI AUT NL SWE FRA NOR SPA EUR
2000 Fuoco nel fuoco 1 50 4 29 79 - 21 - - 8 Stilelibero
2001 Un angelo non è - - 32 - - - - - - -
Più che puoi
(with Cher)
20 61 17 - 43 - 42 - - 32
L'ombra del gigante 27 - 52 74 - - 57 - - 16
Per me per sempre - - 69 - 85 - - - - -
2003 Un' emozione per sempre
Una emoción para siempre
1 35 1 31 43 - 61 - 1 18 9
Un attimo di pace 12 87 34 - 84 - - - 14 -
2004 Solo ieri - - 59 - 96 - - - - -
Ti vorrei rivivere - - 56 - - - - - - -
2005 La nostra vita
Nuestra vida
1 - 6 36 - - - - - 17 Calma apparente
2006 I Belong to You (il ritmo della passione)
(feat. Anastacia)
1 1 1 2 6 - - - - 2
Bambino nel tempo 15 - 40 - - - - - - 57
2007 Non siamo soli
No estamos solos
(feat. Ricky Martin)
1 32 3 45 - - - - 25 12
Il tempo tra di noi 10 - - - - - - - - 69
2008 Fuoco nel fuoco
Fuego en el fuego
(feat. Carlos Santana)
- - - - - - - - 19 -
Ci parliamo da grandi
Somos grandes o no
4 - - - - - - - - 40

[edit] Version 3

Year Single Chart positions Album
ITA GER SWI AUT NL SWE FRA NOR SPA EUR
1984 Terra promessa - - 46 - - - - - - - Cuori agitati
1985 Una storia importante 1 - 7 - - - - - - -
1986 Adesso tu 1 - 1 1 - - - - - 5 Nuovi eroi
Un cuore con le ali - - - 21 - - - - - -
1987 Ma che bello questo amore - - 21 19 9 - - - - - In certi momenti
1989 Musica è - - - - 12 - - - - - Musica è
1990 Se bastasse una canzone - 19 7 15 2 - 11 10 - - In ogni senso
Amarti è l'immenso per me - - - 23 - - - - - -
Dolce Barbara - - - - 24 - - - - -
1993 Cose della vita
Cosas de la vida
4 30 7 15 12 15 14 4 - 2 Tutte storie
Un'altra te
Otra como tú
- - 11 - - - - 14 - -
1996 Più bella cosa
La cosa más bella
1 17 6 9 23 22 8 - - 10 Dove c'è musica
1997 Quanto amore sei
Cuanto amor
2 - 6 17 84 42 - - - - Eros
1998 Cose della vita - Can't Stop Thinking Of You
Cosas de la vida (Can't Stop Thinking of You)
(feat. Tina Turner)
- 4 7 10 4 37 6 - - 6
1998 Terra Promessa[5] - - 46 - 84 - - - - -
Year Single Chart positions Album
ITA GER SWI AUT NL SWE FRA NOR SPA EUR
2000 Fuoco nel fuoco 1 50 4 29 79 - 21 - - 8 Stilelibero
2001 Un angelo non è - - 32 - - - - - - -
Più che puoi
(with Cher)
20 61 17 - 43 - 42 - - 32
L'ombra del gigante 27 - 52 74 - - 57 - - 16
Per me per sempre - - 69 - 85 - - - - -
2003 Un' emozione per sempre
Una emoción para siempre
1 35 1 31 43 - 61 - 1 18 9
Un attimo di pace 12 87 34 - 84 - - - 14 -
2004 Solo ieri - - 59 - 96 - - - - -
Ti vorrei rivivere - - 56 - - - - - - -
2005 La nostra vita
Nuestra vida
1 - 6 36 - - - - - 17 Calma apparente
2006 I Belong to You (il ritmo della passione)
(feat. Anastacia)
1 1 1 2 6 - - - - 2
Bambino nel tempo 15 - 40 - - - - - - 57
2007 Non siamo soli
No estamos solos
(feat. Ricky Martin)
1 32 3 45 - - - - 25 12
Il tempo tra di noi 10 - - - - - - - - 69
2008 Fuoco nel fuoco
Fuego en el fuego
(feat. Carlos Santana)
- - - - - - - - 19 -
Ci parliamo da grandi
Somos grandes o no
4 - - - - - - - - 40

[edit] Featured singles

Year Single Chart positions Album
ITA
2007 Domo mia
(Tazenda feat. Eros Ramazzotti)
6 Vida

[edit] 3rd party opinion on a few current issues

User:Udonknome asked me if I would comment on the discography a little bit, I suppose because I'm currently involved in Discography Wikiproject. I also wrote a proposal for style guidelines of the project, which everyone seems to be quoting already, which is great! However, I would like to stress that the guideline is currently just a proposal, nothing is set in stone yet. In fact, it obviously still needs to be worked on a bit, since it doesn't really cover issues like the one you guys seem to be having with this discography, namely with the re-release of Terra promessa in 1998. It also doesn't take into account an artist who's had so many releases that they fill up more then on screen and require multiple column headers.

So, to the question at hand: if I understand correctly, the single was initially released in 1984, and then re-released in 1998 as a remixed version, which also featured additional artists. Since this is a discography (not a songography), the important thing to consider is if it was actually re-released: ie was it eligible for charts, did radio stations play it, could you find the new version in a record store, etc, etc. I don't know the answer to that, but if it was re-released as I described above as a different version, then it does warrant a mention in the singles table. However, what worries me is that the singles table currently says that the re-release charted exactly the same as the original, which can't possibly be right.

As far as the chart colors go, my personal feeling is to not use them, but that's just a personal taste type thing. There's no rule for that, and I'm not sure if they ever will be or should be. Hope my opinions helped a little, but keep in mind that it's exactly that: my opinion. Let me know if you have any more questions or need any further help. Drewcifer (talk) 18:58, 28 April 2008 (UTC)