Talk:Eros Ramazzotti

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[edit] Personal life

The article says nothing about his personal life. Is anything public ? Are there rumours ? -- Beardo (talk) 23:10, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

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Would you please provide a source of ref. of an official web site that says the birth name of Eros Ramazzotti is Eros Luciano Walter Ramazzotti Molina. Neither his Italian official web site nor the German one say anything about his name being what your recent edit does. Rai International Online does not say anything about that either. The "www.it.wikipedia.org" says Eros Walter Luciano Ramazzotti for his birth name, which is again not sourced. I hope you are not relying on info coming from "www.artistdirect.com" as it's not anything official.

I will leave your edit for now until you provide an official source for it. "Artist Direct", I'm affraid to say, is not going to do it.--Harout72 (talk) 18:28, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discography

There is already a discography article for this artist. There is no point in keeping these long tables in here. That's why we have discography aricles. Udonknome (talk) 19:23, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

You should have posted your discussion before removing the table three times and running into a quarrel with me as well as calling me Clueless on my talk page. I'll say what I said to you on your talk page. Keeping the table serves a detailed information about how well an album or a single has charted in a particular country the reader would be interested in. There is no need to fill the discography section (as you claim that's what it's there for) with dozens of chart positions when it could be used for something more essential --Harout72 (talk) 19:50, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
You seem to be offended for me calling you clueless, yet you didn't really hesitate into labelling me a vandal. Nonetheless, you just proved my point!! "There is no need to fill the discography section with dozens of chart positions when it could be used for something more essential" Isn't that what I've been doing? Also, have you even ever seen a discography article? They always have those kind of lengthy charts and are meant to focus on the artist's discography. Udonknome (talk) 20:07, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

The discography you are suggesting is right in the middle of the article [1] and that's what I'm against. Why do you want to include whole lots of links redirecting to chart positions (which will never be found in one or two places) when we already have a well established table. The discography I am for is already located at the end of the article.--Harout72 (talk) 20:21, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

So why did you undo all of my edits and label them as vandalism, while you simply could've had moved it down in the article? And where are these "lots of links redirecting to chart positions"? There is only ONE link directing to his discography article!!! Udonknome (talk) 20:28, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Plus, my work was not only in the discography section. I fixed the biography structure and put a POV template regarding the biography and the "glimpse of personal life" sections. Udonknome (talk) 20:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Discography section you currently have in the middle of the article is nowhere close to what the former represented. As for lots of links redirecting to chart positions, it's something you are suggested to have after having the table removed, which I opposed by saying, it cannot be matched because you simply can't include one or two links to help the reader click on and locate all the chart-positions. So, it was unnecessary to remove the table as well as replace the heading Forward with Foward which does not exist in English language.--Harout72 (talk) 20:44, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
I never suggested lots of link redirecting...I mean, all I suggested is what I actually did. And for the "foward" typo, when I was putting the section under the "biography" section I initially changed that section to "2003-Present", but then I changed my mind and going back to forward. Simply missed an "r" when typing. Udonknome (talk) 04:12, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, I am no longer going to argue over this, you want to try to have the chart-positions on an entirely different page and having it linked to Eros's article with a link-to-the-discography-article, let's try it. But let me ask you this, how long do you think before some admin. spots it and suggests that it would be better if we merged it with the main article of the artist? Just remember please, to discuss this kind of changes first on the talk-page first, especially when you take a long break from contributing to an article, so it won't look like someone just jumped in and did whatever came to mind. Since you had no explanation in the history-summary it seemed like a clear vandalism. I am simply trying to keep people from messing up this page, you would do the same if you put as much time into expanding an article as I have done on this, and it still needs work.--Harout72 (talk) 21:55, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh well, in that case I would showcase my argument by sending to them a dozen of other discography articles of other artists and make my point :) Udonknome (talk) 02:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Just one more thing before we agree to leave the entire chart-positions linked to the article (the way you're suggesting), exactly what wiki-policy were your arguments based on, in other words, is there such a policy that says we cannot have lengthy charts within articles?--Harout72 (talk) 03:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Well it's not a policy, it's more of something specific of WikiProject Music...see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Music/MUSTARD/Discography...it says If a simple system cannot accommodate an artist's entire discography, a subpage (preferably titled "<Bandname> discography") should be created using summary style. Udonknome (talk) 03:37, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

So you think that this chart is so big that that the system is unable to accomadate, having something like what your link above suggests could perhaps be related to artists like The Beatles for example who have released so many albums/singles throughout their career that the system can no longer hold on one single page. I personally don't see how Eros's page needs that.--Harout72 (talk) 03:58, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Of course, The Beatles are a different thing (that's why they have multiple discography articles!!) and that may have been a weak comparision by my side. Still, I'm positive that 14 albums and 30 singles are more than enough to move the content to a separate discography article. Udonknome (talk) 14:03, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, can't say I agree that the page is long enough at the moment to do what you're suggesting, but since there is a huge chance that Eros is going to keep releasing records and I'm most definitely going to keep expanding the page as well as the length of the chart-table, I'd say let's go ahead and keep it on a separate page as you already have done it even though it's early for such a call.--Harout72 (talk) 05:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Boa tarde, Eros!

Eu gostaria que o cantor Eros Ramazzotti soubesse o quanto me ajudou no ano passado (2007), em minha recuperação (Síndrome do Pânico), fiquei sabendo que ele viria ao Brasil em Maio entre os dias (+/-) 21 , 22 ou 23), então pensei que teria que ficar boa para vê-lo, tentei vários contatos com programas para que eu pudesse trabalhar para conseguir pagar o ingresso, soube depois que não haveria a apresentação. Sábado passado, no programa do Amaury Junior, vi a reportagem feita e me encheu de esperança em ver seu show no ano que vem. Só Eros que poderia ser também do Rio de Janeiro (quem sabe uma única apresentação?). Bom gostaria que se fosse possível chegar este meu e-mail até o Eros! Eros vc tem uma linda família!!! Que Deus estaja sempre abençoando à todos. Sucesso!!!!!

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Um forte abraço.

Fátima —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.196.51.29 (talk) 20:43, 16 May 2008 (UTC)