Talk:Ernst Udet

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This article repeats the claim that Udet introduced dive bombing. This is simply not true, the technique was in use before he arrived, and the Lufftwaffe was already interested in it. I'm going to change this portion. Maury 13:36, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Was he really one of the youngest aces, as the article claims? From what I've seen, his age was rather typical - although his score of 62 kills was remarkable, particularly for being only 22 when the war was over. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Harry Yelreh (talk • contribs) 19:31, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 Place of birth 2 Films 3 Hoaky Nazi Version 4 Contribution moved from article

[edit] Place of birth

An unregistered user has changed Udet's place of birth from Frankfurt to Munich. All the references I've seen online say he was born in Frankfurt so I'm going to change it back. Does anyone have any more info on this? Cjrother 16:31, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Frankfurt-am-Main according to German Fighter Aces of World War One by Treadwell & Wood. Geoff/Gsl 07:02, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Films

Ernst Udet also starred (as himself) in Stürme über Mont Blanc with Leni Riefenstahl and others, as can be seen in the movie itself - or elsewhere, such as http://www.riefenstahl.org/actress/1930/. /Andrey Warkentin 09:10, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hoaky Nazi Version

Udet's autobiography was filtered by the Nazis so the story of his involvement with them and his death gets pretty hoaky. That's why we don't read anything of Goering. The editor of the book I'm using, Ulanoff, points all that out - the uncharacteristic philosophy and the supposition of suicide. Ulanoff seems to feel the nazis may have had agents standing there to pull the trigger. Udet was made to take the fall for the Battle of Britain by Goering, who had been assuring Hitler he could defeat Britain just with aircraft. Udet's supposed last actions sound like those of an insane man, with childish messages supposedly scrawled here and there. They could also be a fabrication. I don't buy them myself. Udet never liked Goering to start with, so why should he commit suicide over him? If anyone has any evidence here, come forward. Note also that after the war the Hitler Youth continued a sort of partisan effort, executing Germans who were too quick to cooperate, so accounts of Germans near 1945 may not be accurate either.Dave 14:14, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Contribution moved from article

Udet had more than one girlfriend when he died , my aunt Betty Reibel( deceased ) was close to him, she went to his apartment in Berlin after his death, Behind his bed was written on the wallpaper in bold letters: " Eiserner, Du hast mich verraten." Iron one, you betrayed me. " That was an allusion to Hitler, who was depicted as eiserner Kanzler, Iron chancellor. I was 10 years old and was told by my mother, Aunt Betty visited us almost every weekend in Nikolasse, where my Elternhaus was. Maris Haag ( username )

Contribution moved here awaiting citation/verifiability, prior to incorporation into article. Scoop100 (talk) 14:25, 26 May 2008 (UTC)