Talk:Ernie O'Malley
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Article Grading: Only minor quibble I have is with the referencing, would be better if it was inline rather than just listed at the bottom. One Night In Hackney303 00:08, 17 March 2007 (UTC) |
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o'Malley came from a respectable middle class Roman Catholic family in Mayo. His Father was a clerk in the congestered Districts Board, which organised land reform in the west of Ireland. His family's politics were conservitive nationalists, supporting the Irish parlimentary Party. The O'Malley's moved to Dublin when the Easter Rising convulsedthe city, and were
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This comment seems to be incomplete. Does anyone know where O'Malley's papers are held? I have found a reference to them in a free online chapter of
Title: The I.R.A. at War 1916-1923
Author: Peter Hart Publisher: Oxford University Press ISBN-10: 0-19-927786-9 ISBN-13: 978-0-19-927786-5 Publication date: 27 January 2005 Format: 296 pages, 6 maps, 21 tables, 1 line illus., 234x156 mm
- Vernon White 09:18, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Here they are:
The papers are in University College, Dublin archives http://www.ucd.ie/archives/html/collections/omalley-ernie.htm
Vernon White 09:24, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Ernie O'Malley's Papers
Only the "national"-related papers were donated to University College Dublin rchives in 1974 by Ernie O'Malley's son, Cormac. Cormac retains the bulk of the remainder of his personal papers, poetry, and some manuscripts in his New York residence and can be reached at comlaw@inch.com
According to the biography of O'Malley by Richard English, his name at birth, and that of his family's, was Malley, and that he latterly added the "O" to assert his Irishness. I believe name changes such as this are an important part of Irish Republicanism, though most attention has been paid to those who Gaelicise their name, not enough attention has been given to those who those who attempt to alter their anglicised names.
I think that you are right that the name was Malley however we shouldn't take it that that is how the family would have been know by all the people around them. The use of O and Mac (and varients thereof) could fluctuate within the same family in Ireland and there are plenty of examples of brother one of whom uses the O and one of who doesn't. People know that the O would be there but may not have used it themselves, not neccessarily to appear more 'English' as the 'O' had actually eroded in Irish to a slight 'uh' sound or gone all together in some Irish names anyway. It is only with the advent of technology that actually standardising these names has become important and I wouldn't be surprised if it were possible to find examples within his own family of both Malley and O'Malley being used - I know that within my own family from the period prior to this there were a variety of spellings used by different members of the family until the influence of proper record keeping and standardisation settled the question of how to spell our name! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.46.151 (talk) 20:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
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