Talk:Erin Pizzey

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"Suppression" of her book? Perhaps it was simply unpopular. This is quite biased and needs rewriting.Zantastik 07:00, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I'll email her to try to find out what form this suppression might have taken, because in my searches there are several references to it elsewhere on the Internet, so there might be something in it. Matt Stan 13:56, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
There is no possible bias in a statement of simple fact. The article states that "some internet sources make the claim that ..." which is beyond dispute, as a brief Google search will reveal. Some internet sources do make that claim. Further, it cautiously notes that they do so on little evidence. This is more than sufficient to meet NPOV standards and does not require a rewrite. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.38.147.166 (talk) 21:21, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Quote

"Men are gentle, honest and straightforward. Women are convoluted, deceptive and dangerous. -- Quoted in the London Daily Mail, 24 August 1988[1]" The links brings me to some website, not to the newspaper's site, so I fear the editor didn't check the accuracy of the quote. The fact that one finds the same quote in many other webpages is not a proof. Apokrif 13:53, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I agree this fear is not entirely without merit. As long as I am not staring at the very Daily Mail issue, I am not sure as well... This is however an unusual situation when somebody actually provides a reference for a quotation. That makes it quite unlikely in may eyes that it had not really been there.
"Apokrif is a nice guy" Daily Mail, 8 January 1987, page 16. Apokrif 13:48, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

I guess the only way to check this is to pay a personal visit to the Daily Mail, or the British Library maybe? Myself, I don't plan on going to the UK in the near future. Even after such research, a question of accuracy of the journalist's account might be considered.

IMHO a second-hand quote is OK is the source is a "good" newspaper - and keeping in mind that, should anybody use this quote in any serious work, s/he should at the very least
* check if the quote is not inconsistent with known opinions of the author
* check if the quote has not been attributed to everybody and his brother, like "Eternity is long, especially towards the end"
In general, I prefer avoiding N-th hand sources, we don't need to increase the number of hoaxes and dubious claims that are found everywhere on the web. WP's reliability problems are already serious enough. Apokrif 13:48, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
In addition, it would be great to learn from Pizzey herself, what is her opinion regarding her alleged assertion from seventeen years ago.
Anyway, I think the quote should be merged into the text and I am going to do this in a moment. Conf 17:26, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
ME AGAIN: I have been thinking about some changes to this page, so now I have changed much more at once. I hope it's better now. Conf 18:23, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] If you call a claim "highly controversial", please document the existence of the controversy

The previous wording was:

Some internet sources make the highly controversial claim that Prone to Violence was suppressed by feminists.

'High controversy' would require that notable sources claiming otherwise also exist. What are they? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.24.176.5 (talk) 01:45, 28 February 2007 (UTC).