Talk:Eric L. Haney

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1 Reference Gone
2 Criticism
3 Haney on Iraq
4 Dubious
5 CSM
6 NAM

[edit] Reference Gone

The reference link is no longer valid. A replacement should be located. 64.56.145.130 16:51, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Good catch. I have linked to the Internet Archive version of that story. Georgewilliamherbert 21:36, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism

It seems all reference to the criticism of Haney by former US Army Special Operation members including, Lt. Col. Lewis "Bucky" Burruss, Logan Fitch, CSM Mel Wick, and CSM Dick Davis, has been removed, it should be put back.

I made mention of it in the intro section; more detail should definitely be provided on the article page for Inside Delta Force'. Alcarillo 19:46, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Haney on Iraq

Someone needs to provide justification as to why Haney's comments warrant inclusion in an encyclopedia article. Please see WP:NOT#NEWS; the article is about the person, not his opinions regarding current events. Alcarillo 16:04, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dubious

I understand that the source for much of the newer information regarding Haney's private sector work came from an interview with him. The unnecessary play-by-play notwithstanding, this still needs to be confirmed from another, independently-verifiable source(s). Haney is a primary source and as such, not sufficiently reliable. See WP:No original research.

Moreover, presenting unspecified information like "CEO of the largest corporation in Mexico" or "Middle Eastern countries" strains the credibility of the article. It's pretty easy to find out what the "largest corporation in Mexico" is -- why isn't that information included? And, that would still need to be verified. Alcarillo (talk) 18:19, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CSM

The section on Haney's military career says that he went to Panama and was later promoted to CSM. Inside Delta Force says that he was considering leaving Delta Force when his promotion to CSM came through. Since the unit could have only one CSM, he had to leave and chose Panama for his next posting. Since this is a primary source, it's not strong enough to update the article. It probably should be considered though. Dsalex (talk) 07:36, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Is there a confirmation process involved when someone is promoted to CSM? I wonder whether Haney was informed of his promotion, but left 1SFOD-D pending a formal confirmation/investiture. Alcarillo (talk) 16:14, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NAM

Does anyone know if this guy served in Vietnam? He is right in that age group, and he had joined the infantry by that time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.94.199.9 (talk) 14:21, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Nothing in his book says he served in Vietnam; only that he enlisted in the spring of 1970, and entered the Army after graduation that June. Later Haney served in the 1st Ranger Battalion (not exactly sure when) which was formally reactivated in 1974. I don't know whether he served in any of the Ranger companies that were sent to Vietnam up until 1972. Alcarillo (talk) 16:25, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I read his book too, and I just felt that was a glaring omission if he did go to Nam and didn't mention it. It must have put him in a wierd position to be a combat train soldier, surounded by other soldier who had been there, and he didn't go himself.--64.94.199.9 (talk) 14:19, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

My read of it was that he didn't go to Vietnam, but continued with his advanced training while the US military presence was undergoing a drawdown in SE Asia. Not every enlistee in the early 70s -- or even during the height of the war -- when to Vietnam. Alcarillo (talk) 16:47, 21 February 2008 (UTC)