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[edit] Re:Master Sword

Ereinion, what exactly do you find objectionable about Master Sword? You still haven't put any complaints on its Talk Page. If you list your disputes, I will attempt to deal with them. --Carl 07:18, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I'm still confused. There is no debate that I can see on the Master Sword talk page. The closest to a debate that I can see is:

"If someone would state where it's said that the Master Sword is also called the "Sword of Evil's Bane" it would be more authoritative. Cúchulainn 00:08, Feb 6, 2005 (UTC)
"Erm, it's called SoEB up, down and across Ocarina of Time. Sheik, Rauru, the manual, and the player's guide all refer to it as such. There are a couple in-game references in other games too. Adam Marx Squared 00:25, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)"

But that's not really a debate. Cúchulainn just wondered when the term "Sword of Evil's Bane" was used, and Adam Marx answered, in Ocarina of Time. Which is true. Google for "Sword of Evil's Bane" and it's basically only ever used about Zelda. So there's no dispute. Right? Other than that, Adam wanted the Smash Brothers stuff differentiated from the Soul Calibur stuff (which I did) since Soul Calibur may or may not be cannon. Anyhow, there's no controversy that I'm aware of about Master Sword. --Carl 12:32, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Ah. However, Telperion made that comment in September, and since then, the page has changed a lot. I assume that if (s)he still had a problem, he would have voiced his concern by now. (In fact, Telperion hasn't even made any changes to Wikipedia at all since September.) I think that we can remove the controversial disclaimer for now, unless someone has a specific problem with the page. If tempers start to flare later, we can put up a warning, but at this point, I don't think anyone has a serious problem with the page. --Carl 02:16, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I understand your concern but feel that for now it's better to wait for an edit war to start and then put up a disclaimer than to scare people away from making contributions. If the article was already relatively complete or already had a brewing edit war, I would endorse the disclaimer, but I still think it's a bit early to say that Master Sword is the new George W. Bush. ;p --Carl 02:49, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Zelda Images

The zelda image that you recently uploaded are tagged as "copyright free use". That seems surprising to me, can you give some evidence that Nintendo have released copyright on their characters in this way. Thanks — Zeimusu | Talk 06:38, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)


The images themseles are copyrighted to Nintendo, however they are avaible for third-party use and distibution, which is how I obtained them. I hope this answers your question. Ereinion 00:05, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Ok thanks. That's great. What we should do in this case (where there is a general permisson) is to create a new template at Template:Zelda Image. That template should link to the source and to Nintendo's release statement. Also a category tag. There was (and is) a big argument over the pokemon images, and I want to avoid the same over Zelda. If you want me to do the hard work just let me know the source and where I can see the details of the copyright. Thanks again for uploading these free use images — Zeimusu | Talk 01:12, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I'm not entirely sure I know what you mean... Nintendo has their policy http://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp#copyrights] regarding copyrights, trademarks, and intellectual properties published on their company's home page. I could create such a template that you were suggesting if indeed the current templates Wikipedia has are in some way unsuitable. Ereinion
Well I looked at that page, and I saw that Nintendo does claim copyright over Game charaters, what I didn't see is any statement from them that they allow free use of images of their characters, which is the issue. Where does Nintendo say that the images are "avaible for third-party use and distibution". Now fair use would probably apply to these images so I'm not thinking of deleting them, just putting them in the correct category.
Also I want to know the source. Are these taken from a web-site? Where? As for a new tag, the advice (somewhere in the backwoods of the wiki) is when uploading a number of images from a single source, create a new tag to sub-categorize. (By the way, I think the new Zelda game looks awesome) — Zeimusu | Talk 04:32, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Under U.S. copyright law, partial works are allowed to be used for commentary or teaching. In the case of Nintendo, it wouldn't be practical to give a statement stating that their copyrights are given free license because they still use the intellectual rights, however distribution is still permitted with the acknowledgement that Nintendo owns all rights to its respective works and properties. This is my understanding. You can research this more indepth if you like at the Reproductions of Copyrighted Works by Educators and Librarians http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ21.pdf] section. Ereinion 00:26, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Yes, partial works are allowed to be used for commentary or teaching, or more generally for the benefit of the arts and sciences. This is what Fair use is, and that's fine, but that is not what "CopyrightFreeUse" is for, that is for images that the creator has explicitly released under a licence similar to the GFDL, allowing "Free" distribution, use and modification (including commercial use).
If there has not been any such explicit release of these images under such a licence then they are not free images. They are (I think) fair use images, though I know there are some in the poke image dispute who disagree.
(There is also an exemption for archival by libraries, but that doesn't apply to us, and wikipedia isn't a classroom, and the editors aren't teachers, so those exemptions also don't apply).
So what I propose is to re-tag as "fair use" as I believe that is the correct statement of copyright for these images.
Finally the source. Is it [1]? — Zeimusu | Talk 05:34, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Zeno image

Thank you for uploading Image:Zeno.jpg. You have marked it as public domain. What was the source of the photograph? Although the sculpture itself is in public domain because of its age, any photograph of it is a new work and has its own copyright. So unless the photograph is old enough to be have its copyright lapse, or the creator has released it, it is not in the public domain. Dsmdgold 03:07, Mar 2, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Kaepora Gaebora

To answer the question in your edit comment, although I did not add the portion of text you deleted, it seems to be based on a popular fan theory that the Wind Fish is in fact a later incarnation of the Hero of Time. I forget the logic behind it, but I wouldn't give it much credence. Deco 09:23, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright

I am trying to clear our the non-sourced images category. If you notice the fairuse tag, it says that the uploader and those who add it claim fairuse. Therefor, I never presume to make that judgement if I have not uploaded it or added it. I am also adding several dozen images at a time, and the tag catches the eye, and makes my job far far easier.

I apologize if you were offended, I am merely attempting to do some janitorial work. Burgundavia (✈ take a flight?) 23:01, May 23, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Master Sword - Hero of Time

What exactly is your reasoning for reverting my changes? Because I see none. The Hero of Time appeared in two games, Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, and he only wielded the Master Sword in OoT. The Master Sword is also wielded by the Links in A Link to the Past, Link's Awakening, the two Oracle games and The Wind Waker. That comes to the Hero of Time wielding the Master Sword once out of its six appearances. Even if you discount the appearances in the Game Boy games as bonuses, the HoT still only uses it for a third of the appearances. Having "Hero of Time" in that paragraph gives the impression that all Links, or at least all who wield the Master Sword, are the Hero of Time, which they are not. Unless you can think of an extraordinarily good reason, don't revert it again. Ian Moody 12:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Your Gripe

I'd appreciate it if you didn't tell others not to do a thing in the exact same fashion in which it was done. And, in the future, stay out of things that don't concern or involve you until they can be resolved by the participating parties. Thank you. EreinionImage:RAHSymbol.JPG 19:50, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)

In retrospect (what a wonderful thing that is!) it was indeed foolish for me to do such a hyppocritical action. I was indisposed at the time so used the edit summary to "nip it in the bud" so it could be sorted out later; had I had the time, I would have personally contacted both parties with more eloquently-worded advice before starting a new talk section detailing both sides of the issue so other editors could also comment.
On to the second point, it does not matter that I was not involved, indeed it was much better that I was not; I was a neutral party trying to prevent a nasty edit war from potentially occurring; had I been an involved party, any possible resolution methods would appear to be biased towards at least one of my points on the given matter. But I thank you for your valid concerns, and I will certainly bear that in mind for future dispute resolutions. Thank you for your time. Master Thief GarrettTalk 03:32, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] RE: My Reasons

Okay, I'll do my best in showing the relation of characters to the story and FFVII as a cultural icon.

Big Bro - The man that Cloud and Aeris have to see in order to get the Wig Key Item. This is part of the Wall Market arc. Big Bro is also a cross dresser which reflects a unique portion of the population and sets FFVII closer to our world rather than a fantasy one.

Choco Bill - owner of the Chocobo Farm who informs the party that they're better off catching a chocobo to cross the marsh. Later, he sells chocobo stables to the player, without these, racing and breeding chocobos is impossible.

Choco Billy - A key figure in selling the character greens (used to catch chocobos and then increase their stats once in the stable). He is also in charge of mating chocobos as well as selling nuts, integral parts of breeding chocobos, without him, acquiring different color chocobos is impossible.

Chocobo Sage - the mysterious guy who tells Cloud how to get chocobos to breed in different colors. He is also the only person selling the highest quality greens and nuts. There's a section devoted to him in the PC version player's guide.

Chole - she gives statistics on your Chocobos

Elder Bugah - many people overlook this character, but he is instrumental in putting a working timeline on the FFVII story and also gives information that it was Professor Gast who discovered and mistakenly labeled Jenova as an Ancient.

Elder Hargo - an elder in Cosmo Canyon who sheds light on what the Lifesteram is, important if the player wants to grasp the larget picture of the story

Ester - another story-important character who is comparable to Mayor Domino, but the player must see her every time that he or she wishes to race chobos. She also instructs cloud on how to race chocobos.

Hart - offers to sell the player clues to the Mayor's puzzle

Holzoff - the man living at the base of Gaea's Cliffs rescues the party whenever they collapse from wandering around the Great Glacier for too long. He also tells the party how to avoid freezing to death while on Gaea's Cliffs. It's his map that the characters take from Icicle Inn.

Joe - The chocobo jockey reappears several time in races on his black chocobo (the only one save for the player's) to make the races difficult. His chocobo always has better stats than whatever the player is using. He is introduced to the player by Ester.

Johnny - This character bears some resemblance to Johnny from Chrono Trigger. He appears in several areas in the game and usually has something to comment on the situation or the state of the party.

Kalm Traveller - two sidequests revolve around this guy: defeating Emerald and defeating Ruby as well as getting a guidebook. He is the only person in the world to offer mastered materia or a gold chocobo or underwater materia.

Kotch - simply one of Don Corneo's lackeys and part of the Wall Market arc. What sets him apart from other NPCs is that he has a name and actually interacts with the player.

Mukki - the guy who slaps Cloud awake in the Honeybee Inn, his apparent homosexuality helps connect the FFVII world to our contemporary one

Priscilla - Cloud saves her from Bottomswell, without her, the party wouldn't have been able to go up to the Upper Junon area, she gives the party the Shiva materia as thanks.

Skotch - same as kotch

Snow - A sidequest NPC/enemy not found by every FFVII player, there's actually a small sidequest just to get her to fight you, and fighting her is the only way to acquire the Alexander materia, ultimately necessary in order to meld mastered summon materia into a master summon materia

Zangan - a character that the player meets in the Flashback, Tifa's martial arts instructor and mentor. There's a letter to Tifa, in her piano, from him explaining Shin-Ra's coverup of the events in Nibelheim.

I'm pretty sure that's everybody I added.

[edit] Your icon

If I understand correctly, you claim copyright over Image:RAHSymbol.JPG. This is incompatible with the standards of Wikipedia. I would suggest you tag it with a GFDL, public domain or other free license. If not, it will need to be deleted. Dragons flight 07:13, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

Could you please respond to this? Dragons flight 14:27, July 14, 2005 (UTC)

Since you haven't removed the copyright tag on the icon, I have marked it with {{copyrighted}} which will encourage others to delete it in the future. You can of course replace the tag with an appropriate free liscence. See: Wikipedia:Image copyright tags. Dragons flight 03:17, July 28, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome

Uh... Why did you post a welcome on my discussion page? I've been here for several months now, long enough to already have received a welcome AND delete it from my page because it's been there so long.. Staxringold 01:22, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for your welcome. i hope you have good time here too ;). Best regards. Petrusbarbygere 02:58, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: My SM code system

You are correct in your assumption of my gender. Due to my age, it embarrasses me to talk about my "infatuation" with SM in public. That's why I always obfuscate any comments I make about SM, and that code is how I pull that off.  Denelson83  06:45, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, unfortunately, I ain't getting any younger, and I expect to be a fan of SM for a very long time.  Denelson83  06:50, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
Well, other people could consider my fanhood of SM a serious breach of a very hard-coded community stereotype.  Denelson83  07:00, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
No, that would be out of character for me. I have never manifested even a hint of sexual attraction. I shall not elaborate.  Denelson83  07:16, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] ReBatman Article

Sorry. I think it's a misunderstanding. Maybe i would have wrotewritten in edit object i try to put a link to a featurd articles in other language. I tried to synthetize, but clearly in an unhappy way. I know and appreciate Wikipedia (i'm italian wikieswikipedian) and i think an interlink to a featured article (in Italy too Batman that is) it's not a vandalism. Maybe you think different or don't know this kind of template and interlink.
Feel myself deal with as a vandal is unpleasent at all. Maybe in en.wiki don't you use this interlink anymore ? Regards --Kal-El☺post here! 21:30, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
P.S. Sorry about my unfluent english. I hope to be at least understandable. BTW here you are an instance of use of link to a featured article: Wernher von Braun, it's not reverted. OK? Best --Kal-El☺post here! 21:45, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

I've noticed me too that in some way it's impossible to see the link. I think, or better, suppose that depends on default monobook. By myself i can't see the link (a little star close to interlink) when i'm logged in and i can see it when i'm logged out. Weird, isn'it? Same thing on fr.wiki. In italian version template works in both ways. I don't know to be more precise, sorry.
If you don't mind you can test (oops) trial in both appearance (log-in/log-out) to verify. However it's a way to highlight, to give more prominence to Featured Article (as it:Batman is). Maybe on here you can found some informations, by myself i'm not able to found them and that is the principal cause by my writing "test" (i'm not sure about template syntax). Let me know, please. Ciao (typical italian greeting) --Kal-El☺post here! 23:00, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Name change

Certainly - please see Wikipedia:Changing username for instructions on requesting a change. Regards — Dan | talk 23:15, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Category:WikiGnome

This category is being merged with Category:User Wikipedia/wikignomes. Please list yourself in the latter, by following the instructions at Wikipedia:WikiGnome. Thanks. -- Paddu 06:22, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category Cleanup

I just wanted to let you know that you are one of two users in a category proposed to be merged: Category:WikiGnome. If you (and the other user) move yourselves over to the larger category, the old category would be empty and could be speedy deleted. A small but useful step in the process of trimming down the category list.
— Bill W. (Talk) (Contrib)  –  February 7, 2006, 16:37 (UTC)