Talk:Equilibrium (film)

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Contents 1 Synopsis 2 Fair use rationale for Image:Vlcsnap-58274.png 3 Themes of Libria 4 Fair use rationale for Image:EQ4-City.JPG 5 References to Other Literature section 6 1984 (novel) 7 Bloopers

[edit] Synopsis

should that be taken out?Soyseñorsnibbles 02:39, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Vlcsnap-58274.png

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BetacommandBot 23:31, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Themes of Libria

I think it should be mentioned somewhere in the article that the symbolism of the totalitarian city-state is in many ways akin to that of Nazism or Fascism. Nazism in the manner of clothing of the soldiers (black trenchcoats exactly like the ones Nazis wore) and Fascism in the shape of their symbol, which looks very much like the "crutch cross" (Kruckenkreuz) of the Austrian Fascist Fatherland's Front.

--Anon

Bump.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.250.152.20 (talk) 13:27, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:EQ4-City.JPG

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:04, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] References to Other Literature section

This needs to be expanded. There are several references to Brave New world, 1984, and Fahrenheit 451 throughout this movie. If some are going to be listed, they all should be. Otherwise, just make a note that the film references these books without giving a list of specific individual examples. Whoa2000 (talk) 16:14, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

The character Mary O'Brien's name seems to be an hommage to a central character in 1984, though the two characters represent the opposite sides of the spectrum. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.23.47.9 (talk) 15:20, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

In order for these references to be included, you should find a source that makes the connection between Equilibrium and 1984 or Farenheit 451. Using just those books themselves would render any literary analysis original research. I agree that there are a lot of similarities going on, they just need to be sourced. -FrankTobia (talk) 18:24, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 1984 (novel)

Is there no reference to the novel 1984. This film is almost a direct parallel to the book. Rather than thought (1984) the target is sensing; rather than Big Brother (1984) it is Father. Both protagonists work desk jobs for the Party and both realize how the gov't is oppressing. I couldn't believe that no one thought to include that very obvious parallel for the film. One could almost say that the film was based on the novel. Scottydude _talk 20:10, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree with you that the similarities between 1984 and Equilibrium are striking. I think I was the one who removed the references to 1984 from this article. The reason is because there was no reliable source demonstrating the similarities between the two, and I couldn't find any such source myself. By making the connection yourself between 1984 and Equilibrium, and including it in the article, you're engaging in original research, which is contrary to the five pillars of Wikipedia. I hope that explains why I had to remove references to 1984. If you're interested, I want to encourage you to find a critical review of Equilibrium drawing parallels to 1984 so it can be included in the article. -FrankTobia (talk) 23:58, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

True. I guess this is when I get frustrated, the facts are obvious but not citable. I will look for a published comparison. Scottydude _talk 18:59, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

The movie looks and sounds like it’s trying to be both The Matrix and 1984 at the same time. Unfortunately it does really badly at both. Not sure whether it’s worth noting in the article, though. All fiction is inspired by something, after all. — NRen2k5, 20:16, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

I think that people are over-hyping the links between this and other stories such as The Matrix, 1984, etc... a lot of the similarities are just due to the fact that they are all dystopian stories (I mean, 1984 has an ending about as far removed from that of Equilibrium as possible!)

HOWEVER it does say on the back of my DVD box that the Sunday Mirror descrived it as "The Matrix meets 1984", but I disagree this is anything more than meaning an innovative martial art meets dystopian themes SetaLyas (talk) 21:55, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bloopers

I removed the bloopers section which was added by various anonymous IP addresses over the past week or so. Each item is original research. All of the items which had been added were judgment calls through inference or synthesis. If additional resources are provided which support these observations, feel free to add them back, but please make sure that the sources support the addition. Slavlin (talk) 00:43, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I completely support the removal. Just my two cents. -FrankTobia (talk) 04:08, 31 March 2008 (UTC)