Talk:Epidemiology and etiology of breast cancer

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[edit] Bras and Breast Cancer

See Talk:Brassiere#Bras and Cancer Risk for previous discussion

One very plausible theory that explains the world-wide epidemiology of breast cancer has to do with the use of bras. Please see this link as well as the long discussion on the brassiere talk page. I know this is controversial but I think it deserves to be mentioned in the article. --Jonathan108 (talk) 17:17, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

I'd suggest a line similar to the one shown by the American Cancer Society under factors with minimal or no risk, since they address the book directly. Most of the other sources do put a line or two to address the book/idea. The National Cancer Institute, breastcancer.org, American Cancer Society, and National Institutes of Health -MedLine all make mentons of bra wearing as having no impact on risk. -Optigan13 (talk) 00:41, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

The Cancer Society says: "There are no scientifically valid studies that show a correlation between wearing bras of any type and the occurrence of breast cancer. Two anthropologists made this association in a book called Dressed to Kill. Their study was not conducted according to standard principles of epidemiological research and did not take into consideration other variables, including known risk factors for breast cancer. There is no other, credible research to validate this claim in any way".

I would like to point out that this statement does not cite any evidence refuting the claim. It simply questions the study's methodology. So, there seems no basis for saying that bras pose "little or no risk." --Jonathan108 (talk) 01:17, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

One more thing. The "known risk factors" mentioned in the quote include breast size and obesity, both of which are obviously correlated with bra use. If the bra theory is true, these "known" factors would suddenly become suspect. This would be great news, since bra use is avoidable, while breast size usually is not.

It would be easy to design a study that distinguishes the factors by comparing women with similar breast sizes who wear their bras 24 hrs. per day with those who wear their bras 12 hrs. or less per day. It will just take some researchers willing to think outside the box. --Jonathan108 (talk) 19:50, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Are you for real? Do you really propose that taxpayers' money be spent on this study? Emmanuelm (talk) 20:06, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

"All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident." - Arthur Schoepenhauer --Jonathan108 (talk) 20:19, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

"All hoaxes go through three stages. First they are invented, second they are ridiculed. Finally, they are forgotten". Myself, today. Emmanuelm (talk) 14:32, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
You forgot stage four: Finally, they are promoted on Wikipedia. MastCell Talk 16:46, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

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Research is generally conducted by scientists in an academic setting. This is Wikipedia. When there is research, we will report on it. As there is no research at present, we do not report on it. MastCell Talk 16:48, 24 March 2008 (UTC)