Talk:Environmental science

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[edit] estate management

need research on estate management/valuation relating to estate management.

This does not sound appropropriate to environmental science. --Alan Liefting 07:41, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Edits need justification

I put in a new form of this article three weeks ago. Since then it has been progressively shortened. Some of the edits appear to be positive. Other have removed important parts of the article. Pleae report your edits here in the future, along with justifications.

Where..here??


[edit] Content

Sorry folks but this whole article is unfocussed, mixes politics and science irrationally, repeats what is already better explained in other articles and is, in part, simply wrong. I would vote for starting again and would suggest the following starting point.

Environmental Science is a term used to describe all those scientific activities associated with the understanding of the natural environment and the anthropengenic impacts upon it. Environmental scientists can therefore be found in a wide range of displines including Ecology, Biology, Chemistry, Physics, Geography, Geology, Meteorology as well as the very many derived disciplines such as Limnology, Geomorphology, palaeontology etc.
The new understandings that Environmental scientists provide can often lead to difficult political decisions for society as it tries to balance the benefits of a sustainable natural environment against the need for food, housing and growth. The role of the environmental scientist remains that of providing scientifically verifiable advice and highligting the environmental consequences of proposed political courses of action.

Velela 09:48, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Note also the presence of an earlier version which may be acceptable: [1] --Stemonitis 12:39, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I agree - let's go with that. Do you want to do the revert? Melancholia 14:00, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Consider it done. --Stemonitis 14:19, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, nice job with the inapproriate melee...just edit next time. Editing works better. Thank you, I will be re-adding something. Have a nice day! - Hard Raspy Sci 14:54, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
i have done a major rewrite on Environmental science and it still needs further work; at least now it is focussed and accurate Anlace 02:24, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Environmental science template

I don't think that template is appropriate for this article if its purpose is to list environmental technologies which are actually more Civil Engineering than Environmental Sciences.

The other obvious thing about this is article is that it's singler. I think we should be talking about 'Environmental Sciences' of which there are many, rather than this singler thing which is poorly defined. This point is reinforced by the fact that you start talking about subcategories of this 'science' which are infact sciences themselves! ;-) Also, whoever wrote 'Atmospheric sciences' in this article can't really disagree with me. Supposed 06:51, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


--- Ummm, actually, the discipline has a name - Environmental Science. Google it. I graduated in it. "We" aren't inventing that one. And you´re right, whoever said Atmospheric Sciences can't argue with you, because that's invented bologna which should have been atmospheric chemistry, or meterology, or whatever discipline they thought they were talking about.

Oh no to be honest I agree with you, I was being abit pedantic. hehe. I also graduated in environmental sciences and from a top 10 uni :-). Environmental Science is collection and integration of Environmental Science{s} but even then that isn't always true. The term seems to be banded around to describe anything that's Environmental, infact, some of the subjects I studied weren't even sciences but they were environmental, they weren't all based on scientific method. So you didn't graduate in 'Environmental Science' or 'Science(s)' in the way someone of physics would graduate in Physics. Don't you find it a little troubling that some 'Environmental Science' isn't even scientific? It's not a very good name for this discipline. Supposed 10:45, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scientific method

"but also applies knowledge from other non-scientific studies such as economics, law and social sciences."

However,

social sciences tend to emphasize the use of the scientific method in the study of humanity,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_sciences

I'm troubled because the first quote looks like a reference to the social sciences on the whole.

The point is, this study - environmental science - sometimes incoporate studies that don't necessarily use scientific method. JHJPDJKDKHI! 16:18, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Earth Science

Is Environmental science considered a discipline within the broad field of Earth science? It seems reasonable that it should be, at least to me, as Oceanography (a comparably multi-discipline field) is listed as part of Earth science. Just wondering. Thanks. — RJH (talk) 16:42, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Anybody? Hello? Knock-knoc k... — RJH (talk) 21:14, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re-working

I'm going to be working on this article some in the next couple weeks, I think it would really benefit from a tightening/focusing Gcolive 02:06, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Environmental technology template

I'd like to replace the Environmental technology template with one that matches the standard navbox style, i.e. horizontal instead of vertical, collapsing and typically placed at the bottom of article pages. I've done a mock up of what this would look like at {{User:Jwanders/ET}}. Figured this was a big enough change that I should post before going ahead with it. Please discuss here--jwandersTalk 21:57, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed External Link

Hello to anyone interested in ES. I am seeking to list an external link with out running afoul of WP rules. The site consists of screened summaries of recent ES related research, policy, and news from specialized journals and many other sources. The justification for this site is that it would be impossible for anyone to stay informed on all the journals and news sources covered therein and it would be useful to have an RSS feed on the subject and its correlates. I believe that this site is extremely useful for everyone in the ES community, but then again I am also its editor and publisher. Since this disqualifies me from self-listing the site as an external link, I am asking for anyone to have a look and then add the external link. Here is the link html which can be copied and pasted directly into the external link editing window: Environmental Science and Policy: http://envsci.xyvy.info I appreciate your consideration. Utopian100, MPA-JD, Environmental Science and Policy Utopian100 (talk) 11:26, 31 May 2008 (UTC)