Talk:Entourage (TV series)/Archive 1

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Contents 1 Matahorn? 2 Ethan Suplee 3 3rd season 4 New picture 5 Debi Mazar 6 McQuewick or Mackewich? 7 Drama's career 8 Mandy Moore 9 Mrs. Ari 10 Comedy 11 Fourth and Fifth Season 12 Trivia 13 Principal Characters 14 Drama's Mother? 15 Season 3.5? 16 Episode Articles 17 Ari's Educational Background 18 Cars of Entourage 19 Guest Template for Infobox 20 External Links 21 Trivia Section 22 Proposal: Time for WikiProject? 23 Images 24 Awards 25 Character Articles 26 Mrs Ari's first name 27 Kevin Smith 28 Trivia citations 29 Nominations

Matahorn?

On the episodes list, for the pilot they say Vince is considering a role in "matahorn"... shouldn't it be "Matterhorn", as in the mountain, as in the ride at Disneyland?

Ethan Suplee

I watched "Neighbors" again and noticed that under the "Also featuring" part of the credits it read "Anthoney Anderson, Bob Saget, Ethen Suplee." Now did I miss him or was he cut from the episode and still credited? (it's worth noting that on the "Queens Blvd." poster, Suplee has second billing under Vincent Chase. AriGold 12:28, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Well he's also credited on imdb [1] but I definitely don't remember seeing him in the episode. I'm guessing you're right about his scenes being cut. Dan Granahan 15:09, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Suplee is Vince's interlocutor in the scene he loops for Walsh:

Suplee: Hey. You ever comin' back?

Vince: You kiddin'? I am Queens Boulevard.

chocolateboy 03:12, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

3rd season

Just read on aintitcool that "HBO CEO Chris Albrecht tells the Television Critics Association: not only is the pay service putting on a third season of E, Vince, Drama, Turtle and Ari Gold next year, it wants more than 13 episodes for that third season." Should that be added? AriGold 13:05, 21 July 2005 (UTC) The third season is currently being filmed

S3E1 plot details

New picture

Hope everyone helping on the page approves. AriGold 1 July 2005 20:57 (UTC)

• Very good, I was looking for that pic. Sfufan2005 July 1, 2005 21:59 (UTC)

Debi Mazar

Considering that she is a star of the show, can someone create a paragraph for the character?

McQuewick or Mackewich?

Anyone know which is the correct spelling? I think the Irish spelling would be the correct one, considering it's being played by a McDowell. --DarrenBaker 18:55, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Drama's career

the article says "In season one, we find out that he has not had an acting gig for seven years."

is that accurate? they say that Viking Quest has been off the air for seven years, but i thought it was mentioned that Drama hadn't done anything in 3 years (i think in the season 1 episode in which he gets assigned Adam Davies as his agent...) i don't have access to the DVD right now, can anyone fact-check that? 67.169.58.50 00:47, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

You are correct he says he says he has not been working for three years at Adam's Office, however he has had roles in Vince's movies, such as Head On and QB which are very recent, also it is mentioned he worked on Barber Shop got a check, but was edited out. I am going to edit the page to say "serious acting gig" as I feel this fits the situation.Dapoloplayer 05:26, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Mandy Moore

Why isn't Mandy Moore credited in the cast list? Would someone who has the info please add her? JimmB 03:00, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

This comment is now irrelevant since Stevegallery reorganized the Cast and Recurring Characters sections on 8 June 2006. JimmB 03:02, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Mrs. Ari

Do we know for a fact that her name is Dinah Gold? I just finished watching "The Bat Mitzvah" where her name is allegedly said by Terrance however when I put on the closed captioning, he said "Darling" instead of "Dinah". Also, on both HBO and IMDB credit Ari's wife as either "Mrs. Ari" or "Mrs. Ari Gold". If we can find a reliable source that backs her name up, it should stay however if we cannot find anything it should return to "Mrs. Ari". Sfufan2005 16:52, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Correct, her name is never spoken and she's always credited as Mrs. Ari. 24.247.219.140 19:12, 25 June 2006 (UTC) C.M.

Comedy

The opening paragraph of the article denotes the series as an HBO original comedy. I really do not find Entourage a comedy... a comedic drama, possibly, but definitely not a full on comedy. Sven Erixon 06:21, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Correct, It is considered a "Dramedy" --Argash 15:06, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Fourth and Fifth Season

I've removed the information about a fourth and fifth season already being ordered as there was no reference cited, and in my searches have not been able to find anything to verify the information. Sven Erixon 08:19, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I heard an interview with Eric Connolly on the Jim Rome radio show. Eric stated that the 4th season was in production right now and he was shooting a scene at the Queen Mary that day.

Is is officially being called the 4th season? I believe it is being divided Sopranos style...--Disembarkedone 18:16, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, Season 3 1/2 will supposedly begin airing with 8 episodes starting in January. Season 4 of Entourage will possibly be Summer '07 with another 20 episodes. Sfufan2005 20:08, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

HBO is saying "Last 3 episodes of the season" in the commercials... so I think one can assume that what will be on in Jan is season4--68.193.174.250 09:38, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Trivia

"The highly eccentric character, Billy Walsh, is spectulated to be based on outspoken independent film director Vincent Gallo." was added as a trivia item. I believe it has been established that he is based on Rob Weiss (as said in Season2 DVD by Doug Ellin) --Disembarkedone 18:16, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that is true. Rob Weiss is the basis for the character. Sfufan2005 20:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Principal Characters

I'm starting to think that the entries for the principal characters on this article are getting too long. Should we maybe start splitting them off into individual entries, then having short blurbs from the main articles on this one? Sven Erixon 22:42, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I am thinking the same thing, however right now I'm working on the episodes so I can't focus on it. If needed I can do up Vincent's article that could be used as a reference for someone else to do the rest. --Argash 15:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Drama's Mother?

The article says that Johnny Drama is Vince's half-brother from their father's first marriage. But in the first episode of season three ("Aquamom"), he and Vince appear to have the same mother. When Vince is trying to get his mother to come out to LA, she asks Vince how his brother is doing and whether he's been able to get any work. Drama acts all slighted when he finds out she's going to go to Vince's Aquaman premier and begs her to come to his next premier (if he ever gets one). Drama refers to her as "ma" throughout the entire episode ("Ma can be very petty"). And when the plane lands and she gets off, she refers to Drama as her "first born". Perhaps this is just an inconsistency from early episodes of the series, but it's pretty clear now that Drama and Vince have the same mother.-24.186.220.44 07:21, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I think episode 3.01 breaks continuity since in several Season 1 AND 2 episodes (Pilot, The Review, My Maserati Does 185, An Offer Refused), Johnny is referred as Vince's half brother which is the way it should remain in this article. But that's my opinion. Sfufan2005 19:49, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Also It's possible that they have the same mother and different fathers and the episode where they stated they shared a father (not a mother) could have been a mistake. --Argash 20:37, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Also, Vince could have been raised by his father and Drama's mother, or vice versa, and both of them think as her as their mother. Sven Erixon 06:24, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

No, since there is a line in "Aquamom" about Drama being their mother's first born, so we know in current continuity they have the same mother. We also know that they share the same father -- there's the line in "My Maserati Does 185" ("You have your mother's calves, I got dad's"), as well as another line in another episode where Vice tries to soothes Drama's insecurities ("Don't worry. All the Chase men..."). In current continuity, it appears that Vince and Drama are full brothers, and that is the way the relationship is described in HBO's official character bio for Drama [2].-24.186.220.44 08:12, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Season 3.5?

Do we have confirmation other to Season 3 completing in the spring of 07? --Argash 06:52, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

During this past weeks episode (What About Bob?) HBO continuously referred to next weeks episode as the season finale. Anyone have any other information?  Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  12:17, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Episode Articles

I'm in the process of creating the episode articles and I am wondering if it might be easier to get other peoples help if I do the basic leg work and create all the articles at once with all of the info boxes and the basic sections and then everyone else can go behind me and fill in the plot summaries/quotes/trivia and stuff. If you would be interested in helping out if I did all that work first let me know. Other wise I'll just continue to do whole episodes at a time. -- Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  15:40, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

If you add just the basic info for all the episodes first, then leave it up to others to fill in the other stuff... If noone does anything in them, come back to them later. Sven Erixon 03:51, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok Season one stubs are up, I'll work on seasons two and three later today. -- Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  14:23, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Now all the stubs are up, enjoy. -- Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  20:44, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I added a few quotes for ya for season 3/2 28 August 2006

Ari's Educational Background

Didn't Ari receive his MBA from Harvard Business? In the episode with Josh Weinstein, I'm fairly certain that he mentions Harvard Business School when he crashes Josh's party.

I believe its a MBA from harvard and a JD from Michigan, I'll find it and update it. -- Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  13:30, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

In episode 2 Ari says he's a Harvard grad with a JD/MBA from Michigan  Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  02:07, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Cars of Entourage

Can we add a section, or something similar, about the cars that Vince and the boys drive? So, far, a partial list would include:

• 200? Hummer H2
• 200? Cadillac Escalade
• 1968 Lincoln Continental
• 200? Maserati Quattroporte
• 200? Mercedes Benz S65 AMG
• 200? Aston-Martin DB-something or other (3 of them)
• Ari's BMW 750Li

That's all I can think of for now. Are there any others, and should there be an entry for these?

Also, on a semi-related note, is the Continental ever featured on the show other than in the main title?
Grahamdubya 23:17, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

• I really don't think this is necessary in the main article... possibly as a "See Also" article? It just doesn't seem overly important. Sven Erixon 11:44, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

• Don't forget about the Roll's Phantom

Guest Template for Infobox

Ok I've created a template for listing the guest stars in the episode info baxes. It took me awhile to get it right but I finally got it. You can see it at Template:Entourage_Guest please comment on it and let me know what you think. The only real limitation it has right now is (as you can see on that page) the images HAVE to be in a 3x2 ratio or they flat out break the template. This means most of the guest stars will need new images uploaded and I'll need to make a generic image for guests that currently don't have any photos or an article entry.  Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  06:36, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

External Links

We have way too many external links on this article. A good chunk of them are "fan sites" or unofficial sites... I also don't think we need to have all of the "official" sites listed. We should whittle this list down to less than five links, as most of them really aren't relevant to learning more about the series. Any comments/suggestions before I start hacking the list? Sven Erixon 17:09, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I think some of those links should either be put in a "see also" section or just listed as references, especially the ones linking to news aticles/blog posts  Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  05:16, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Very good idea. I've taken the liberty at doing this, and removing most of the other links. If anyone feels some of them should be put back, please discuss first. Sven Erixon 05:37, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

9/25/06: I have added back the Entourage Superfan to the external links and I believe it deserves that spot. Not only was it the first fansite created to my knowledge, it was also the first and sole unofficial site here for months (anyone visiting this article for a long time can vouch for that) and I believe it has way more info than the other fansites. I was disappointed to see it had been removed. -Entourage Superfan Webmaster

Trivia Section

I'm starting to think that the Trivia section is getting a little too long. I know that given the very nature of Entourage, a lot of trivia bits will inevitably come through. I suggest we either create a new section, or reduce the number we have right now. Agree/disagree? Sven Erixon!

Start by moving the episode specific trivia bits to the relevant episode articles and see how much that cleans up  Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  05:58, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Jake Gyllenhaal did not star in Spiderman 2

Proposal: Time for WikiProject?

What do you all think, we have four or five regular editors now and the articles are really expanding, is it time to go forth with a WikiProject for Entourage?  Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  10:39, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I was thinking about proposing it, but I am definitely ready to delve into a project, as I'm sure you can tell :) Sven Erixon 11:45, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

As an added note, I've recently been weighing what needs to be done to the article to gain Featured Status and can come up with a good to-do list to start off with, if we decide to go the WP route. Sven Erixon 11:47, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

The Proposal has been submitted for those interested in participating please add your name to the proposal which is here and to the temporary project page here. Thank you to all those willing to participate.  Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  13:12, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Images

I think we could use some more images on the main article. I don't have any screencapturing abilities, otherwise I would jump on this. Anyone able to help out? Sven Erixon 11:58, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I've kind of been holding off until the descussion over fair use gets resolved over on the list of lost episodes and because theres so much other stuff to worry about. That said I screen shots are very easy to make and if you have a list of specific scenes or what not just let me know  Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  12:01, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I've tagged all entourage related images with Category:Entourage Image so you can now easily find them all on that one page.

Awards

I've added an awards section I'm thinking that subsections should be limited to just emmys and globes with a single subsection for other minor awards. A list of all the awards that Entourage has earned is listed here they just needed to be worked in now. BTW props to Jeremy Piven for finally winning his award the same night his character got fired! gotta love the irony on that one!  Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  07:56, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Character Articles

I've started breaking out the major characters into their own articles. Obv I started with Vince and you can see the article at Vincent Chase also you can see the template for it at Template:Entourage Character, there is currently a problem with the image not sizing properly that I can't seem to get working correctly but you can start playing with it at least. I will eventually get all 5 of the major characters done this weekend. Feel free to comment on the template or just start using it or editing it.  Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  13:59, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm on a short wikibreak until I get over a sickness I caught from one of my roommates (bastards!) I'll get on this once I'm healthy again. Sven Erixon 19:27, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Ack! That new table is hideous!! Sven Erixon 21:15, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

heh it was a temp fix feel free to replace it with something better  Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  21:25, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Dude why are you the only person in this talk page???--Donnie from the mean streets of Boston, KY 19:02, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Probably because the season ended so editing on these articles has slowed down for now. -- Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  11:16, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Mrs Ari's first name

Was just rewatching The Bat Mitzvah (Entourage) and at 12:30 (approximately) Terrance leans in and says to Mrs. Ari "Hello..." now I've replayed this about a 100 times now and its possible he's saying Hello Diane or Hello Darling but I cannot tell and would like someone else to take a listen and give me your opinion. -- Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  07:48, 3 November 2006 (UTC) He said "Darling". Sfufan2005 19:54, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

• I watched it and I think Terrance is saying Diane. Theres not much of and 'ing' sound at the end of the word. ALaF 22:45, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Even IMDB says "Mrs Ari" so that means maybe her name is not said? --Mikecraig 23:02, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

- I notcied this too last time i watched it, but it's nearly impossible to tell. ^ don't trust anything on imdb for tv shows. Someone try Closed Captioning it. I haven't tried subtitles either.58.168.221.153 08:39, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Kevin Smith

The Kevin Smith references always seemed out of place to me. Comparing the guy who made Clerks and Chasing Amy with the guy who made Pearl Harbor? Smith discusses the issue in an interview http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=12101. Actually, now that I look, the issue is discussed directly on the Rob Weiss page, perhaps a mention here would be helpful. Aepryus 16:33, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Why is this Smith groupie inserting Smith's defensive reaction to getting a mild slam on a TV show into every tangentially related article? Smith is not the focus of this series and the references to him are no more notable than those to Joey Travolta or Quentin Tarantino. Face it, the series is about Hollywood, it is inevitable that it will take shots at certain people and moreover this is coming from characters who may or may not reflect the attitudes of the writers. Is there anyone outside of Smith's nerd cult who doesn't think of him as a pathetic one hit wonder? It is natural for characters moving up in the Hollywood world to mock such people. And by the way, there are a grand total of two references, so it is awkward to say they "always" seem out of place, as if they are a routine part of the show. And the first Smith reference is plainly used to ID the Weingar character as Weinstein, as Smith is one of his golden boys--it's more a slam on Harvey than Smith. Please, go back to tending the Kevin Smith hagiography.

Actually, I'm not a Kevin Smith fan; I've seen a couple of his movies. I didn't, however, find them to be in the same class as Michael Bay's, so was curious about the reference. If you check the logs I changed a single article, the Kevin Smith article, which isn't terribly tangental and had never edited that article before. When I said "always seemed out of place" I wasn't speaking of multiple references was more talking about everytime I watch the episodes. I like the show so I've seen each episode a few times. The reason I added the link had nothing to do with advocacy one way or another, but I had a simple question about something I saw...it took me quite a while to find the answer and when I did find the answer, I thought it would be helpful to post it to wikipedia. Heh, but wow seemed to invoke quite a violent reaction...who knew.Aepryus 08:44, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Ha..just figured out why the reaction. Aepryus 09:21, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Trivia citations

"Turtle's wearing a Bayside HS jacket in the pilot episode" - for a citation to support this claim, I dug up the Bayside HS Football logo . I found no pictures of anyone wearing a varsity jacket. To confirm the claim, I need a screencap of Turtle wearing the jacket with logo showing, and the approximate time in the episode. The citation will only refer to the Bayside HS site, and the approximate timecode in the pilot episode. Lexein 13:44, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Nominations

• Propose conversion of all Nominations from the Awards section: Convert to links, convert to citations, or delete? --Lexein 12:30, 20 February 2007 (UTC)