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Enric Naval is taking a short wikibreak and will be back on Wikipedia 13 June 2008, RL is calling and wants its time back

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[edit] ZuluPad

  • Regarding your comment "Endorse deletion until draft is provided" on the Deletion Review of ZuluPad, I have provided a new, draft version here with sources cited for your review: User:Omeomi/ZuluPad. Your comments are welcome, of course. --Omeomi (talk) 04:08, 25 May 2008 (UTC)


  • Thank you for taking the time to read and comment on the draft ZuluPad article. I thought I would mention that another user has found and posted a quote from the newspaper article from The Record (Bergen County). He also mentions that The Record has the "second largest circulation of New Jersey's Daily Newspapers". I have updated the draft User:Omeomi/ZuluPad page with quotes and a cited source to reflect this. These are the sources that I feel are notable: The Record, Lifehacker.com, and Gizmo's Tech Support Alert. --Omeomi (talk) 19:14, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gurch ref

LOL!!!!! thanks! Bstone (talk) 19:12, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Eric, por favor, tú que sabes hablar bien inglés, explícale al usuario sueco que no para de incordiarme que Canarias, Ceuta y Melilla no pertenecen a España, sino que "son España". Muchos guiris se piensan que son colonias españolas... Ponen las banderas de Canarias, Melilla y Ceuta en artículos de África, como si fuese territorios dependientes, o algo así. Voy yo y lo corrijo, y me llaman "vandalismo nacionalista de Telefónica".... Increíble, pero cierto. Te aseguro que no tengo la menor intención de vandalizar esta Wikipedia. Un cordial saludo, y gracias por la mediación. Granadin (talk) 16:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You so much

Thanks SOOO much for undoing the vandalizm done to my userpage!! ♥Tory~♥Amulet♥Heart♥ 18:49, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] About User:Granadin

Thanks so much/muchas Grazias. You're doing a way better job with talking to Granadin as I could (that was my intention when I started editing some of his reverts and tried to talk to him when he was still an IP (nothing bad about IP's but it's just way easier to talk to people that signed up for a user account). Also, I'm curious about some things he reversed (he was right in some...but unfortunatley he didn't bother to give reverences). So about your interference so far: Great/fantastico!

Regards/saludos --Floridianed (talk) 22:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] MfD Devon

I tried that earlier today, but they were all declined. The user suggested MfD. I will try with Speedy delete again anyway. Meaty♠Weenies (talk) 21:45, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

I've added all of them for speedy deletion now. When the bot comes round to assessing all Devon articles will it created WikiProject Devon categories again or will it learn to put them in just "Devon". Meaty♠Weenies (talk) 22:00, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry I've been away!

I've responded to the MfD discussion. Isaac (talk) 02:03, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

P.S. I really like your lol cats.

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Are the last few edits marked correctly? §hep • ¡Talk to me! 17:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

I've stopped the bot until I can figure this out. Thanks. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 17:43, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Waiting for a respinse from a BAG member, response about mb on my talk page. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 22:58, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Massive template changes by MadeForMe

Thanks for the catch! I also went to my home WikiProject, WikiProject Television Stations, which is probably a more relevant project, and notified them of the incident you logged. dhett (talk • contribs) 19:05, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

I rollbacked MadeForMe's Ohio edits and have a tool for you. If you decide to undo the edits (which I urge). You could do a mass rollabck from his contributions and use a personalized revert message so you don't have to do 100s of undos. See the user script: User:Mr.Z-man/rollbackSummary. Hope that helps! §hep • ¡Talk to me! 23:05, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Er...

...could you explain your rationale for adding a "see also" to Furry fandom in the Encyclopedia Dramatica article? I don't see the link at all. Tony Fox (arf!) 00:35, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Heh, much appreciated. I didn't think it'd be a good idea for me to remove it, all things considered. =) Tony Fox (arf!) 02:53, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your message on my talk page

Well you can go ahead and ban me if you like. But you cannot prevent me from holding the view that you guys are terribly biased. For example consider the following statement:

"Your addition was inaccurate & hardly neutral in tone. Furthermore, my reversion referred to this misrepresentation, as well as the long-standing practice on this page of avoiding the use of primary studies to make specific claims, preferring reviews and meta-analyses...two separate issues. — Scientizzle 20:02, 30 May 2008 (UTC) "

Then what about the reference to an article in Newsweek. Which review or meta-analysis does it refer too? Hallenrm (talk) 07:26, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Pardon me, Enric, for interrupting...Hallenrm, if you want to take issue with any of my edits or comments, you should feel welcome to take it up with me directly. — Scientizzle 16:44, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
No worries. Actually, my talk page always feels quite lonely because I'm almost always maintaining the discussions on other people's talk pages --Enric Naval (talk) 16:59, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Email

Hello, Enric. You've got mail. --RyRy5 (talk) 05:14, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I have to be offline soon, so I might not get your email. Best, RyRy5 (talk) 05:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] reverts to article

I saw that you reverted edits made to the article New Rochelle, New York due to sock activity. Some of the reverts dont seem necessary but I cannot figure out how to go into the article to fix them myself. Maybe by listing them for you, you might be able to fix them? Thanks!

19th century history: - Simeon Leland, Adrian Iselin and Rose Hill Gardens are all linked ( by [[ ]] ) but shouldnt be. - Endion is the estate of Frederick Remington which was deleted for some reason

Education: - Iona Grammar and The Ursuline School are all linked ( by [[ ]] ) but shouldnt be.

New Rochelle in film, music, television and fiction: - Under the Terrytoons line, Gandy Goose, Dinky Duck are linked ( by [[ ]] ) but shouldnt be.

the following references are unsourceable (false) and should be removed:

  1. Musicals Give My Regards To Broadway and Guys and Dolls both reference New Rochelle
  2. The Oscar-nominated Burt Reynolds film Starting Over includes a school carnival scene filmed at what is now known as the Hudson Montessori School on Quaker Ridge Road.[citation needed]
  3. Scenes in the movie Michael Clayton, released in 2007 and starring George Clooney, were filmed in New Rochelle.[citation needed]
  4. The character James 'Spike' Thompson (Dexter Fletcher) in the ITV series Press Gang comes from New Rochelle, but lives in Norbridge, England.[citation needed]

Notable people: - Mariano Rivera should be on a different line than Ray Rice - Johnny Angel, Craig Carton, Vinnie Costa, Art James, Arnols Stang shouldnt be on the notables list because they lack sourcing.

the following notables had references that were deleted: - William Randolph Hearst, newspaper 'baron' owned country estate on Stratton Road [1] - Laurence Fishburne, actor, playwright, director, and producer [2] - Rob Morrow, actor [3] - CL Smooth, rapper [4] - Gina Torres, actress [5][6] Thanks again! --ANGLE-TELLA (talk) 10:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, I repaired the damage as well as I could, thanks for warning me of the problems with the article:
  • for 19th century history:
    • for the red links, see my comments on the terrytoon's red links. If you don't like the red links, then please make a short stub with enough info to help other editors improve the article, instead of simply removing the wikilink just because it's a red link.
    • I don't think that it's necessary to add the name of the state on the article, it's enough to point out that he does have a state and that it's big (three acres)
  • for education
    • same as the red links on terrytoon characters (since you seem to live there, you could take a photo of them and start a small school stub using the {{School-stub}} template at the bottom of the page, or one of the more specialized templates listed here
  • New Rochelle in film, music, television and fiction:
    • It appears that Gandy goose was a real toon that existed[7] and so did Dinky Duck [8]youtube video. I'll make a short stub for them so that they are not red links. Please notice that it's usual to leave notable enough names as red links so that people will want to create articles on them. You do *not* have to remove links just because they are red, red links are often left intentional by editors in case someone can write an article on the linked term. It's different if the articles on them have been deleted as not notable or other circunstances. I think that toon characters that were featured on several animated shorts when the age of animation was starting, made by an animation study that got notable later, are probably notable enough to merit their own article.
    • for the give my regards musical, I found what looks like a reliable source[9]
    • for the rest of musicals, I am not going to search for sources, but I'll leave them alone for now since I have no reason to believe that they are false, seeing that at least of the musicals on the list actually referenced rochelle.
  • for notable people:
    • fixed mariano rivera entry
    • tagged then ones that lack sourcing
    • the source for William Randolph is a blog (unreliable source), tagged as citation needed as it seems that he only had a house to go there on certain days, so it's not a remarkable fact or we need a more reliable source than a blog
    • the sources for lawrence fishburner and gina torres are wikis, used imbd instead
    • the source for rob morrow is a personal page, used a tv.com biography instead
    • the source for CL Smooth is a personal website, using imdb instead


I made the changes. However, I think that you actually might be an alternative account of the user that was managing those socks, so I reviewed each change very carefully before adding it to avoid meatpuppetry issues (aka doing proxy changes for blocked editors). I have warned an admin to have a look into the situation --Enric Naval (talk) 14:30, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I appreciate your input. I saw the article several days ago and they looked much different when I viewed it again today. That is why i was wondering about the changes. --ANGLE-TELLA (talk) 14:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Regarding your comment on my talk page, I have no direct knowledge of New Roc City, but I agree with your verdict that the recent edits were by Jvolkblum, using several different IPs. --Orlady (talk) 03:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Templates

No, I am learning new stuff all the time, just like your cat. LOL Bearian (talk) 21:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mother's Day article edit

Enric - the inclusion of the Republicans' vote against memorializing Mother's Day needs a better citation. I read through the Washington Post article and it has a clear Democrat voice. Maybe a better citation is needed, but having read through the Post article and given the Post writer's bias, I would equate that citation as to a Republican citing Rush Limbaugh in an article. I don't find the inclusion of that vote very encyclopedic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.212.73.250 (talk) 21:09, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] water memory

It was now listing homeopathy as a scientific field (because they changed the meaning of the parameters again), but there's no actual science related to water memory, it's strictly homeopathic. 22:42, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Eh, that's dignifying the subject far, far too much. Maybe if it said "Scientific fields it violates" Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 23:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank-you

Just a quick message to say thanks for your assistance regarding the deletion of User:Relyimah/Infobox User. I will keep this in mind for the next time. --Ben Sawyer (t-c-e) 05:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hong Kong

Hi, thanks for sending me a message, but, the thing is, the Chinese characters provided at the infobox at the Hong Kong article are: 香港特別行政區, which means "Hong Kong Special Administrative Region". The English name previously stated there is: "Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (HKSAR) of the People's Republic of China", which does not complement the Chinese characters provided in the infobox. Now, "Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (HKSAR) of the People's Republic of China", when you write it in Traditional Chinese, will be: 中華人民共和國香港特別行政區. What I am trying to say there is, either make the Chinese name complete, and retain the name "Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (HKSAR) of the People's Republic of China" as the English equivalent in the infobox, or just leave my edit the way it is (BTW, what I did was, I made the English name to "Hong Kong Special Administrative Region", to complement the Chinese characters provided therein. That would be all. I hope you understood me. Makeru (talk) 09:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Henry Bauer

Hello Enric, I see that you are expanding the Henry Bauer stub, and I also note that the sources you are using are mostly self-published by Bauer or (for example, in the case of JPANDS) published in non-peer-reviewed, partisan publications. If you look into reliable sources on Henry Bauer such as news reports you will find that Bauer seems to have made the news for his opposition at Virginia Tech to measures meant to increase the representation of underrepresented minorities at the institution and for his adherence to fringe theories. If the article is not going to be deleted, it will need to address these realities. I just wanted to make sure you are aware of this, because from what I've read today, Bauer's controversial views suggest a further expansion of the article could become very uncomfortable, very quickly. Regards, Keepcalmandcarryon (talk) 22:13, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Enric, I am somewhat disturbed by some of your recent comments, and I have probably responded too much in kind. I think we may both have violated the collegiality we should try to maintain here. Part of this might be a generational difference, and I will try to respect that. However, I would like to request that you please try to assume good faith, and I will do my best to do the same.

Second, I didn't want to correct you at the Henry H. Bauer page, since I recognize that English is your second language, but I thought I should tell you here, since I appreciate when people correct my mistakes in the other language I speak. A "seminar" in most of the world means an academic course (in the continental European tradition), but in the United States, where Dr. Bauer taught for most of his career and where he gave the talk in question, "seminar" means a talk. The speaker usually talks for almost an hour, then has a Q&A. That's it. You don't have to believe me; it's made clear in the media report that covered Bauer's talk. (Also, the phrase is "at a university" not "on a university".) I'm not trying to be snide here, I'm just correcting you as I would want from others.

Third, the "AIDSWiki" is not a reliable source and it does not belong on Wikipedia. There is no assurance that the "transcript" is correct or even real. As MastCell mentioned before, the AIDSWiki is a one-man labor of love that is utterly unreliable. And if the transcript is real, should we really link it? I know there are some people who feel it's just information and all information should be out there. But there's information and there are lies. I can't judge Henry Bauer's motivation, in fact I suspect he's just an ignorant contrarian. But I can judge his science. I have read his book, and it is based on simple misunderstandings. He is trying to be a statistician when he's not, and a biologist when he doesn't know much about biology. Intentional or not, his musings on AIDS are lies. The sad part is that many people take them for truth. It's understandable. When you are sick, you don't want to admit it. You don't want medicine. You want to think you will live forever. And when a big science professor and former dean comes along and tells you you're fine, you take his word and don't notice that he hasn't done any science for the past thirty years, is a member of what some people would call a right-wing hate group, has made strident comments about homosexuals in his memoirs, and is an authority, at most, on historical pseudoscience.

Have you known anyone who died in AIDS denial? I have. It makes me sad and mad. It reinforces my view that, in a few rare cases, we have not just a guideline, but a social obligation to uphold policies like WP:UNDUE. And that includes not making a puff piece out of a stub on an obscure fringe professor like Bauer. You're welcome to disagree with me and take the libertarian tack about freedom of speech and letting people decide what to do with their own lives. But I encourage you to at least think about this issue before adding more puffery to the Bauer article. Sorry to write a damn book here, feel free to delete if you don't want it. Thanks, Keepcalmandcarryon (talk) 15:17, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I apologize again for my unfortunate comments.
I'm from europe, and I wasn't aware that "seminar" had a different meaning on the US. Thanks for pointing this to me. I'll change it to "has given talks promoting the subject" with a link to the page where he lists them. I would like that article to reflect that he is doing a continuous promotion campaign on his personal blog and on his talks. Otherwise, the readers might think that he just published a book and a pair of papers and then he made no other mention of the subject.
The transcription was accurate, I just saw that Bauer has a copy of that same PDF on his personal page. I replaced it with the new link. I suppose that it's an accurate transcript, since Bauer points people looking for his seminar information to it.
I understand that you are mad to people whose actions have caused harm to people that you know personally. However, I try to keep a neutral point of view when editing articles, and I try to report relevant and accurate facts, even when I disagree with those facts. If someone is an authority on historical pseudoscience, then I'll report him as such, and I'll cover his research, even if I personally think that he is full of crap or self-deceived, and I'll make sure to the limit of my possibilities that my beliefs don't tranpire into my edits. I'm sure that his theories on AIDS are wrong, but his wrong research has been nonetheless discussed on notable places, so I'll report on that. --Enric Naval (talk) 21:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for the kind words, but I ask you, please take care to distinguish Bauer's possible expertise on historical pseudoscience (Velikovsky) from Bauer's current involvement in the much more dangerous pseudoscience of telling people that HIV does not exist and that whatever causes AIDS is not contagious. By insisting on linking to Bauer's self-published material, you are also lending undue weight to a thoroughly discredited and scientifically indefensible set of lies. If that's what you mean by NPOV, then I suggest that yours is not a "neutral point of view" but rather an ultra-relativist "no point of view" that says, so what if it's a lie, let's link to it. Keepcalmandcarryon (talk) 21:52, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template

I saw what you did with with {{Anonymous and the Internet}}. Albeit I think a bit more of why those things are all interlinked w/ each other could be added to the main article at Anonymous (group). Nice work, Cirt (talk) 05:57, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Ah, quite. Cirt (talk) 06:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Well this type of interlinking/integration etc. along a topic or theme should hopefully foster more collaboration among editors of those various articles and perhaps even speed up their overall improvement along quality status. So yea, nice idea, and nice job w/ creating it and taking initiative. Cirt (talk) 06:12, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Co-X_Entertainment

I've noticed your good work cleaning up unfortunate redirects. I hope you don't mind, but I'd like you to consider the redirect Co-X_Entertainment. Searching the target page for "Co-X" shows only an extremely brief reference. That reference is a link back to the original redirect.

I have no idea if this is brilliant forward planning for when the redirect is turned into a full page, or whether it should be cleaned up. I'm hoping you have time to deal with it (or take a lot longer to explain it to me, and I'll do it). --Johnuniq (talk) 10:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I started preparing to add the redirect to WP:RFD when I saw that User:Rossami has added a long list of redirects from this user, including this "Co-X" one. I'll wait to see how that discussion develops, and may add my thoughts. Thanks for your explanations. --Johnuniq (talk) 00:06, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:Anonymous and the Internet

Template:Anonymous and the Internet has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Wafulz (talk) 16:17, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] My thoughts

Please see User talk:Vassyana#User:QuackGuru. Vassyana (talk) 21:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Maurice (talk page)

Enric, you showed much interest on improving the article of the CoA of Catalonia from what i've been able to read. I'm willing to read your point and reasoning about the edits made in last days. About you asking for a pair of days... Take your time buddy, wiki is not everything in life! ;) --MauritiusXXVII (Aut Doce, Aut Disce, Aut Discede!) 07:38, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] quick opinion

Sorry to bother you. Wikipedia's policy against essays and so forth on userspace; do you think it would cover User:Axlrose365? it IS a conspiracy theory, but it can simply be taken as his opinion, however much of a nutjob it makes him sound like. Thanks for your time!. Ironholds 09:22, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help :). Ironholds 19:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A whole barn full of stars

A whole barn full of stars!
...that's what they should give to users who can change their mind, as you did here. Truly, the rarest quality among Wikipedians. Congratulations! NikoSilver 21:47, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much! :) --Enric Naval (talk) 17:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you!

Greetings from Indonesia! Thank you for informing us about that. We will tell the user that what he is doing is inappropriate. dragunovadiscuss 17:17, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


[edit] your message

they can't place their tag on every article on which they don't agree with. additonally they don't adher WP:NPOV —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.233.73.54 (talk) 18:56, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] re: Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2008 June 4/Hashmi list

Looks like we just edit-conflicted in the sorting. Give me 10 minutes and I'll merge your changes in. Sorry. Rossami (talk) 20:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm done now. I could keep going at it for hours but I need to get some work done. I'll stand aside and watch for a while. Thanks for your patience. Rossami (talk) 21:09, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your long, hard work on this massive project. In addition to checking out about 80-85% of your list, I've been weeding out categories of his creation and seeing if I can get them speedied (so far, I managed to get rid of about 20 cats, with about another 10 in the pipes). One thing that I've noticed was a very heavy reliance on {{DEFAULTCAT}} so that a one- or two-paragraph article could have as many as 20 categories(!). B.Wind (talk) 08:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I think that it was Rossami that did most of the work, but thanks :) --Enric Naval (talk) 15:16, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Semiprotect

Semi'd Template:Anonymous and the Internet as high risk, Its only a few days old and already getting hit. Cheers--Hu12 (talk) 01:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] your clearly unjustified accusation for "edit warring"

i want you to appologize for your unjustified accusation of "edit warring". if you have problems with me i suggest you discuss your "problems" directly with me instead of makeing false accusation against me just to get my differing opinion out of wikipedia SomeUsr|Talk|Contribs 22:42, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

a'right. thanks for clearing up. peace. btw: this slowly is becoming a heated debate as users keep pushing their own povs without even discussing and finding consensus first. SomeUsr|Talk|Contribs 23:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User:Sclua despicable manners

Enric, this user is higly disruptive and unwilling to cooperate in the good path in order to improve the articles. This user has been warned a number of times (even by admins) and keeps committing the same faults in a a harder way each time.

After what I've read in your links in Sclua's talk-page about him calling us "Spanish fascists", his xenophobic comments about chilean and/or southamerican people, his edit warring and personal attacks, I decided to finally report this user to an Arbitration Committee.

Do you wish to back me in this? --MauritiusXXVII (Aut Doce, Aut Disce, Aut Discede!) 19:26, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Enric, I've reported Sclua. Here is the link if you wish to add anything. I hope that now, we will be able to improve the articles seriously. Cheers --MauritiusXXVII (Aut Doce, Aut Disce, Aut Discede!) 21:23, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] RV

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[edit] duplication on the lead of article

  • Hello User:Enric Naval, Thanks for the comments [[10]]. I was aware of the wiki conditions, my problems was that User:Kwamikagami was being specific with just one postulate when there is approximately 12 listed in the “Popular UFO hypotheses” section. By focusing on just one User:Kwamikagamiwas is slanting the alien postulate, thus to his end slanting the page to the alien view thus its an anti POV. Best regards Vufors (talk) 03:21, 10 June 2008 (UTC)