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Help with this template Comments: edit – history – watch – refresh I believe the specifics of the Toronto program was added because Engineering Science is a largely undefined (and undefinable) program which varies across schools, as opposed to for example mechanical engineering. This certainly validates the article going into detail about the different specialties students choose and the class structure because this information is not available elsewhere.

Contents 1 Specific programs 2 advice 3 bias & references 4 Question

[edit] Specific programs

Perhaps information on specific programs should be moved to their own, or a relavent page?

[edit] advice

The Toronto program does not belong here, and it will be removed. it sort of overbalances the article. So will the list of notable programs unless some documentation can be provided. We cant just make even sensible value judgments of our own here.

Almost no individual academic department in the world in any subject has a separate WP page, and if you create one, it will inevitably be nominated for deletion,and almost certainly deleted unless you can show that it is notable separately independently of the college. I suggest you make a page for the various engineering departments at Toronto, giving them each a section. This hasnt really been tried yet, and it would be interesting to see it. I think it could probably be defended.

as a practical matter, you should probably make it off line or in a user sandbox, and add it when its complete and well sourced. you know the way people are around here (smile) DGG 04:30, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] bias & references

Firstly, I would like to point out that the Toronto section includes many bold statements without any external references (i.e the dropout rates). Overall, it sounds as though the authors of the section were biased which leads me question the credibility of the article. (comment by anon.)

[edit] Question

If this is an article about a specific program at a specific university, then the first section is not relevant, being general background only, and the article can and will be challenged as non-notable.

If this is an article about the subject, then the Toronto part should be removed.

I ask the editors to choose.

If left to myself, I'd choose to keep an article, by deleting the over specific part. The edit comment on the article asked that this be discussed on the talk page, so let's discuss it. DGG (talk) 03:33, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

hearing no objections, I've just removed it. P{lease discuss objections here, do not revert. DGG (talk) 09:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)