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[edit] Not just literal interpretations produce extremism

"Third, moderation is bad theology because the extremists are, in a sense, right: God really does want to put homosexuals to death or destroy infidels, if one reads the texts literally."

One does not need to read the texts literally to arrive at destructive ideas. Even if these stories are just allegories, well, allegories are made to teach lessons.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/errancy/issues/iss173.htm 5. The liberal Christian sees many stories in the Bible as instructive myths, but, as a matter of course, overlooks the malignant lessons inherent in those very stories!

Take the Adam and Eve story. It warns us against pride, yet, but it also pushes blind obedience as a pri-mary virtue. Curiosity, asking questions, seeking knowledge, are discouraged. Dialogue is discouraged.

The God of Genesis wants undiscerning obedience, the same thing, coincidentally, that oppressive rulers want, which suggests to me that oppressive rulers are behind this story, not God.

In fact, I think the underlying purpose of the Adam and Eve story, is not to teach about the sin of pride, but is to teach obedience. The writer is presenting a mythological tale that encourages people to obey authority without questioning. It's the original propaganda story from those in charge.

Then there's Abraham's willingness to senselessly kill his son in order to be obedient to God. Abraham did not ask any questions; and for this he is highly praised. Blind obedience is presented as "great faith."

But, whether or not Bible stories are used as a control mechanism, my point here is that they contain profoundly harmful adjunct lessons, which liberal Christianity blithely ignores.

Enda80

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