Talk:Empress Dowager Xiaozhuang

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[edit] Move suggested

The name of this article is inconsistent w/ other references to her and similar people. i'll move it tomorrow if there are no objections. --1698 07:52, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

There is already a number of links referring to the page "Xiao Zhuang Wen". If you move "Xiao Zhuang Wen" to "Xiaozhuangwen Grand Empress Dowager", you must change all the links too. Also, the name "Xiaozhuangwen Grand Empress Dowager" is inconsistent with the style of naming other Qing Dynasty Empresses. She was an Empress before she became a Grand Empress Dowager, and after she died, she was again addressed as an Empress. Her name is simply "Xiao Zhuang Wen" regardless of how many titles she held during her life. "Xiao Zhuang Wen" is the proper way to name her, and you should go to the category Qing Dynasty empresses and see how the rest of the empresses are named.
The article "Xiaozhuangwen Grand Dowager Empress" should be removed, because the informations it contains are already in the article "Xiao Zhuang Wen", and "Xiao Zhuang Wen" contains even more information. There is no reason to keep the complicatedly-named article "Xiaozhuangwen Grand Empress Dowager", because the name is not common, and is hard to find using a search engine on the web. Who created the title "Grand Empress Dowager"? It is not a recognized way of addressing an emperor's grandmother in English, and is known by very few people. People and historians nowadays commonly refer to her simply as "Xiao Zhuang Wen". 70.71.11.217 17:21, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Isn't this person the same as Xiao Zhuang Wen? Is this article a duplicate? User:Dimadick

[edit] Merge and move proposal

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. The proposal was actually to merge content from Xiao Zhuang Wen, and then move the merged article to the new location, but that doesn't make any difference (the diffs don't know where they happened, and we can't merge the histories anyway), so I went ahead and moved the page, and I encourage anyone more confident than myself with the subject matter to merge any content from Xiao Zhuang Wen that is missing at this title. -GTBacchus(talk) 09:35, 16 January 2007 (UTC)


Proposal to:

  1. Merge Xiao Zhuang Wen into Grand Empress Dowager Xiaozhuang, then...
  2. Move Grand Empress Dowager XiaozhuangEmpress Dowager Xiaozhuang.

If the two articles are merged, it doesn't matter which is moved to the previously agreed correct name and title (Empress Dowager Xiaozhuang) since the content will be the same. Since Grand Empress Dowager Xiaozhuang has a longer edit history, it should be retained as the primary location. —  AjaxSmack  06:29, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

(Move request was originally posted at WP:RM by Neo-Jay at 19:18, 6 January 2007 (UTC))

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[edit] Survey - Support votes

  • Support. I agree because this article has a much longer edit history than Xiao Zhuang Wen. --Neo-Jay 07:37, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Support We need to clean up the mess among all the Qing dynasty articles.--Niohe 12:13, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey - Oppose votes

[edit] Discussion

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[edit] Related moves suggested

See Talk:Xiao Xian Chun and Talk:Xiao Yi Chun.--Niohe 01:44, 9 January 2007 (UTC)