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[edit] Vandalism :O

On the first section of the biography, theres some major vandalism. I cant edit this page so could someone please remove that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.15.117.237 (talk) 01:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mysogynism

Under the "threats" to the President section, we made it clear that " "White America" also brought the U.S. Secret Service attention at first, but gave up after seeing a statement from Eminem after the song: "*laughs* I'm just playing America, you know I love you". " but in the Mysogynist second, we fail to cite the line from Kill You (Which is one of the songs cited for his alleged hate towards women), which states "[Eminem]Hahaha, I'm just playing ladies|You know I love you" . I think it'd be important to add this as neutralizer towards that particular part of the article, as it would balance out what that part explicitly states. The idea is NPoV, regardless of the image that his music may have made. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.12.11.239 (talk) 15:35, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Anonymous

hey in 1998 Eminem was on a record with The Anonymous called Green And Gold EP... i have the vinyl, but I'm tryna find info on it and on the group "the Anonymous" and i thought i should put it here because Eminem Associated with them.-+

[edit] Censorship of 'My Name Is...'

I am worried; why are there only about 5 websites on the whole internet that have the real lyrics to the song? Why cant i find the original version? Why does nobody seem to be aware of the fact that they are listening to the censored version?

None of these are lyrics in the song 'My Name Is...'; "My English teacher wanted to flunk me in junior high. Thanks a lot - next semester I'll be thirty-five." "Extraterestrial, running over pedestrians in a spaceship while they're screaming at me 'Lets just be friends!'" They are lyrics to the censored version, which seems to have taken over the internet. Originally it was "My english teacher wanted to fuck me in junior high. The only problem was, my english teacher was a guy." And "Extraterestrial, killing pedestrians, raping lesbians while they're screaming at me 'Lets just be friends!'"

There may be more, but i cannot recall them. There are sources on the internet, if you look hard enough, but i feel worried about trusting even them, since The Powers that Be seem so determined to dissolve the truth with their excellently fitted but false lyrics.

I'm sure this deserves at least a passing mention - we all now know that it was "Seven kids from Columbine" and nothing else, so why are the masses so ignorant to this?

Thanks, BrockFettes (talk) 15:01, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, the lyrics "My English teacher wanted to flunk me in junior high. Thanks a lot - next semester I'll be thirty-five." are what appeared on the "retail non censored version" of the The Slim Shady LP in the UK. (I bought it at the time, and just checked) There was also a censored version available, but I don't think anyone really buys them here. (I understand in the USA, places like walmart often only stock the totally censored version, ie the radio friendly ones). I think the "uncensored" lyrics you are referring to may have appeared on The Slim Shady EP, which preceded the LP. I actually remember at the time Eminem talking about the fact the record company made him change some things, even on the uncensored version, this was probably in his interview with Tim Westwood before the album came out, that's the only interview I remember from that time. Hulahulahulahula (talk) 01:02, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Stevie Wonder?

Anyone wanna tell me how a blind man like Stevie Wonder can be commenting on a video? I mean, he's blind, right?

Here's the quote discussing the Just Lose It video in the article

"Many of Jackson's supporters and friends spoke out about the video, including Stevie Wonder, who called the video "kicking a man while he's down" and "bullshit" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.9.193.237 (talk) 00:25, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


Also, that Weird Al quote is in there twice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.138.210.168 (talk) 18:47, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA review

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

This article is in decent shape, but it needs more work before it becomes a Good Article.

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:
    In the "1972–1994: Early career", it would be a good idea to mention his real name, ex. 50 Cent and The Game. 12 and 14 should be written as twelve and fourteen. In the 2000–2001: The Marshall Mathers LP section, "Eminem was arrested when, on June 3, 2000, during an altercation at a car audio store in Royal Oak, Michigan", is "when" really necessary to include?
    B. MoS compliance:
    In the D12 section, "D12" only needs to be linked once, per here.
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    Reference 6 needs to be fixed. Does Reference 24 cover the first paragraph of section 2002–2003: The Eminem Show? In the 2008–present: Fifth studio album section, Dr. Dre telling the LA Times that he's going to work with Eminem needs a source. The third paragraph on Featurings and productions, needs a source.
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
    This sentence needs a little re-write ---> "Having sold over seventy million albums worldwide, Eminem is one of the highest-selling musicians of the early 2000s, and one of the highest-selling rap artists of all time", just a little. 1999–2000: The Slim Shady LP, "Eminem broke up with his girlfriend during the period, and this and other personal turmoils cumulated to an unsuccessful suicide attempt", needs a re-write.
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:
    If the statements above can be answered, I will pass the article. Good luck with improving this article! Also, contact me if the above statements are answered.

--  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:08, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

All done! :) Gary King (talk) 00:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you to Gary King for getting the stuff I left at the talk page, because I have gone off and placed the article as GA. Congrats. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:58, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gangsta Rap

EMINEM IS NOT A GANGSTA RAPPER! WHOEVER KEEPS PUTTING HIS GENRE AS GANGSTA RAP ON EMINEM-RELATED ARTICLES, STOP DOING IT! HE ONLY DOES IT FEATURING IN 50 CENT SONGS-SCB '92 (talk) 13:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image

A while back there was a complaint about the quality of the picture. I've cleaned up the blotchy colours somewhat, but it's unfortunately a little blurrier. I'll let someone else decide whether to replace it on the page. http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r250/nazlfrag/eminemfinal2.png —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nazlfrag (talk • contribs) 18:17, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

What an awful foto. Rather none at all than such a terrible cell phone shot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.57.93.31 (talk) 21:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Thats a horrible photo.. Surely there are better ones.. Dillon90 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dillon90 (talk • contribs) 15:03, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Occultism

Recently It's been heavily speculated that Eminem's philosophical view on life is closely aligned to the Nation of Gods and Earths. This can be suppourted by earlier references in his music depicting devil worship. This can be attributed to the fact that white members of the 5% nation are classified as "righteous devils". This theory can also be suppourted by his musical influences, whom by a majority are 5%ers (Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Wu-Tang Clan, X-Clan, Nas, Jay-Z, Mobb Deep...), his collaborations with Rawkus Records, and the political/social views and subject matter in his music. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.125.78.12 (talk) 16:35, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Eminem Youtube User

could this be eminem youtube page? http://youtube.com/user/EminemMusicRecords —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.166.154.35 (talk) 01:04, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


of course, ya eminem has a youtube account....RIIIIIGHT —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.172.92.58 (talk) 09:56, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

thats not him but his company

were's info on vanilla ice in teh article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.230.35.239 (talk) 23:18, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wrong Photo

That is not a photo of eminem on the front page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.85.178.133 (talk) 21:33, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] KING MATHERS & THE RE-UP

Why isnt there anything on the RE-UP on here it wasnt just him but the album is called EMINEM presents the re-up & why does it say fifth album they have a name for it its King Mathers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.47.31.189 (talk) 01:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I have da answer

I have the answer to "KING MATHERS & THE RE-UP" subject i dont think he would call it that becuz he is friend w/ T.I and as u know T.I calls him self that —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tupac Fan 123 (talk • contribs) 15:25, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Change the picture!

somebody plz change the picture, this one is not so good —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluefialka (talk • contribs) 16:29, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes the picture is horrible--77.42.207.17 (talk) 16:53, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

You'll note in the talkpage archives for this article that this issue has been brought up numerous times before. The problem is, no one seems to be able to find a better photo that meets with Wikipedia's Image use policy. If you have one, or can find one, by all means, submit it. Otherwise, it doesn't really help much to ask for a better image here. It is always the case that if someone has a better image for an article that they are urged to edit the article to include it. -Verdatum (talk) 17:12, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I changed it :D--N-G-50 (talk) 14:16, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Your effort is appreciated. Unfortunately, you replaced it with a copyrighted image. You did not properly fill out the non-free use rational in accordance with Image use policy, and since a free image is available, I believe this also violates Non-free content criteria. Without in the least filling out the non-free use rational, this image will be auto removed in a few days. -Verdatum (talk) 18:31, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
You just copied it from here...real smart :| Do U(knome)? yes...|or no · 20:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] D12 - Obie Trice isn't a member!!!

Under the D12 section it says Eminem and fellow D12 member Obie Trice spoke at Proofs funeral. Obie Trice is not in D12. Someone who has the ability should change this —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thaprototype (talk • contribs) 05:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)