Talk:Emanuele Filiberto, Prince of Venice and Piedmont

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[edit] Merge from Princess Luisa of Savoy

Please merge relevant content, if any, from Princess Luisa of Savoy per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Princess Luisa of Savoy. (If there is nothing to merge, just leave it as a redirect.) Thanks. —Quarl (talk) 2007-03-02 08:10Z

I have just changed the first part of the article. It was not enough clear that the reason why everybody knows Emanuele is that he is the grandson of the last King of Italy, this infomation should be the first to be read by everyone.

I don't wanna cause an edit battle but the person who is keeping on changing this page is using wikipedia in a criminal way. Nobody can write Emanuel is titular prince of Venice and Piedmont if THE ITALIAN GOVERNAMENT DOESN'T RECOGNIZE IT. You can write he claims to be the prince.. or that he is known as the prince ... even if he is not. Yuo probably don't know because you're not even italian and you don't even speak the language, but he has just finished being on tv tonight and no one called him prince, just because you can't be a prince if that title is not recognized in the same country where you say you're the prince. Yet the father is not a pretender to the defunct throne of Italy, He and the son wrote to Ciampi in 2002 calling him President of Repubblic. Therefore he is not the son of the pretender... as you wrtoe, but the GRANDSON OF THE LAST KING OF ITALY. Is it clear?

write here why you wanna change the page instead keeping on doing it without leaving any comment, this is vandalism. —Preceding unsigned

comment added by 83.190.49.9 (talk) 02:29, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Don't you understand a meaning of "titular"? --Motsu (talk) 03:36, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Please stop editing. You don't understand technical terms clearly, "titular" "title" etc. --Motsu (talk) 03:42, 27 November 2007 (UTC)


I know what titular means,and I really don't understand what you think is wrong in what I wrote.

"Titular Prince of Venice ~" means that title created by abolished monarch or pretender. His father is pretender and created him "Prince of Venice~", So he is "Titular Prince of Venice ~". Is this OK? --Motsu (talk) 03:57, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

I see, but I think it's a little bit complicated for all those who are not expert of these kind of things, that's why I beleive the current version is ok. I’m also trying to understand how to change the title in order to put Grandson of the last King of Italy” Anyway if you wanna precise he has been made prince by the father when the monarchy was already departed in Italy you can do it, but be sure it will be clear that the Italian State doesn’t recognize it. That’s why the title should be “Grandson of the last King of Italy”

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.190.56.145 (talk) 04:10, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
That's not title. And the person having "Titular title" as a policy is to make entry. So, it was described with "Prince of Venice ~" there. I think, you should have only added "Grandson of the last King of Italy" to the appropriate position of the text. --Motsu (talk) 04:31, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
83.190.56.145, would you re-edit it if you understood my thought? You denied the sentence of other members from misunderstanding. In addition, you wrote different things in the place that should have written "Title". It's too bad, these are Vandalism. Therefore, other members should revert these edits (I do it if it isn't performed in the near future). I think that you should revert your edits, and should add "grandson ~" "government ~", having respected the editing of other people. And you should entrust the result to the judgment of other members. --Motsu (talk) 23:45, 27 November 2007 (UTC)