Talk:Elyria, Ohio

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[edit] Ever famous

However attached you may be to this marching band, describing it as ever famous is not a neutral point of view. Richard Pinch 19:13, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. I'm an alumnus of the EHSPMB, we were praised and I had a lot of fun being in it, but Wikipedia has to adhere to a neutral point of view. The band isn't really famous outside of Lorain County; even "northeast Ohio" would be pushing it. :) --Birdhombre 02:31, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

OK, I edited it to this: The Elyria High School Pioneer Marching Band is a source of pride for the community. I suppose that would still require a citation, but it's true. --Birdhombre 02:47, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] suprised at what I read here

Having just watched 'Inherit the Wind' on TMC, I came to Wikipedia to prove to my skeptical family what every Elyria school child is taught: that the play was written by an Elyrian. I was surprised and, really, appalled to read this:

"Unfortunately, the city suffers from a serious crack cocaine, gang, and prostitution problem largely congregated on Middle Avenue, a major street through downtown."

Did someone from Lorain write this? Why has it not yet been edited out?Amancine 21:44, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

First off, welcome to Wikipedia. I'm sure you recognize me. :)

I have this article on my watchlist, but somehow missed that edit. In reading other Wikipedia articles about cities, the only ones that mention crime or drug problems are ones particularly noted for it (e.g. Los Angeles, Newark, New Jersey). And besides, things like that really should be cited.

I moved both the Hot Meals and the marching band sentences to a new "Community" section, since they didn't seem particularly relevant to the opening paragraph, and there will probably be other additions in the future. "Community" may not be the best descriptor for that section, but it was all I could think of at the time. --Birdhombre 03:56, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

You are ever vigilant, "Birdhombre". Thank you. (Yes, of course I recognized you - plus a little "bird" told me this was one of your hobbies.)131.123.204.19 13:14, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Illyria/Maria/Celia

This probably violates WP:NOR on the surface, but the article as currently written states that Elyria was named after himself (Heman Ely), as well as his fascination with Illyria. The town's web page on the history of Elyria also implies this is the case, although it is vague as to if the clarifier refers to the entire paragraph on the subject or just the time frame.

However, I could have sworn that the theory I heard 15+ years ago at the city museum (located in the historical house between Elywood park and the Library/YMCA on Washington Ave) was that it was named after his last name (Ely) and the end of his wife's name (Maria). However, now I am seeing at least one online source ("Page 120") implying this is now considered false, and that his wife's name was Celia, not Maria.

Granted, I no longer live anywhere in the area, so if that museum/historical house is still open (I believe it may have once been Heman (Herman?) Ely's home at a time too), or if someone local can really do a good job researching this, this might be an interesting issue to note, or finally put to rest. Cerlyn 06:53, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I have also heard that it was his name and his wife's last name but I don't know I would have to go to the library or something, because I live in the area and I am sure that the Hickory's are still open as a museum. Dunno. Bd8494 18:41, 6 August 2007 (UTC)