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[edit] UTA images

Elred, I just wanted to say thanks to you for cleaning up all the logo's on the UT-Arlington page. It looks much better and we are now one step closer to getting to featured article status. Tee Owe 04:09, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry but I have no digital or scan-worthy pics and unfortunately, I live in the Houston area now. I am a 4 year BSIE graduate from UTA and my second masters (information systems) is also from there, and my sister graduated from there too. I think UTA is a nice school with some pretty good programs. My goal is to get UTA's article to featured article quality; your contributions are again appreciated.

By the way, please remember to sugn the discussion pages with the four tildes. Tee Owe 05:06, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images

Hello, Elred. I noticed you've uploaded a few images, and I had a few questions about them. (You can respond by editing my talk page and leaving a message there.) First, you uploaded what seemed to be two nearly identical images of the Texas Tech University logo (Image:Ttusticker.gif and Image:Ttusticker2.gif). However, they appear to be duplicates of Image:Texas tech university modern logo.gif, which had already been uploaded. Regarding those two images, you've tagged them as public domain; however, because the image is of a logo of an institution, they cannot be tagged for public domain - instead, they should be tagged with {{univ-logo}}, which the current logo is already. The other two images you uploaded (Image:Seal2.jpg and Image:TTUSeal.jpg) appear to be identical to each other. In addition, they appear to be either copied from a website or cropped from the image I uploaded yesterday - I cannot tell because of the small resolution of the images, but they have some striking similarities. If the images were copied from a website, then they cannot be tagged as public domain unless the site specifically says so (and you must provide the source, if this is the case); if the images were cropped from my picture, you should specify that on the image description page for licensing reasons, etc. For now, until these questions are cleared up, I'm going to go ahead and remove all the images from use from any articles (specifically Texas Tech University), given that the logo has already been uploaded and that we have another free image of the front already. I've also changed the licensing for the two university logos; once you respond, I will go ahead and delete them as duplicates of Image:Texas tech university modern logo.gif. Please clear up these questions regarding all four of the images. For more information, please see Wikipedia:Image copyright tags. Thank you for your understanding. Flcelloguy (A note?) 21:58, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the response, Elred! As a side note, you can sign all of your posts on user talk pages and discussion pages with four tildes (~~~~) or press the signature icon () on the toolbar directly above the text field when editing; this will automatically insert your username, a link to your userpage, and the current time and date in UTC. Now, regarding the logo: while it may not be an official school logo, I still think it classifies as such. Public domain is generally reserved for works you have created on your own, including the original design. Thus, although I'm not entirely sure of the classification of that logo, I do think it needs to be tagged with the appropriate fair-use tag. Now, since you uploaded two versions of this logo, I'm assuming that you would prefer Image:Ttusticker2.gif to be used in the article? If that is the case, then I will go ahead and delete the other two logos, being repetitive of that one. Our fair use policy only allows those images to remain if they are being currently used in an article, so once Image:Ttusticker2.gif is placed in the article, the other two must be deleted. (I can always undelete them if necessary.)

Now, to clarify with regards to Image:TTUSeal.jpg and Image:Seal2.jpg: were those two images derived from my original work? I don't mind (in fact, I wanted people to edit the image and improve it, seeing as I didn't take a level image) at all, but it's needed for licensing purposes and as a courtesy to the uploader/taker of the original picture. By all means please improve my pictures, but just let me know if it is or isn't derived from my upload, and I can tag the picture accordingly. (By the way, if it is, would you mind uploading a higher resolution? It's a bit small right now. You can upload over the current image, and the previous version will still remain in the history.) The two images also appear to be identical; let me know which one/name you prefer and I can delete the other one.

Finally, I encourage you to take more pictures! There's a lot of topics that still need illustration. You may be interested in uploading those pictures to Wikimedia Commons, our sister project and repository of free images. All Commons pictures must be free (i.e. no fair use logos), and they are automatically accessible to all Wikimedia Foundation projects, including this English Wikipedia. See the Commons page for more information.

Thanks again, and please don't hesitate to let me know if I can answer any more questions. Flcelloguy (A note?) 21:13, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your contributions again, Elred! I've now deleted all of the duplicate logo and seal images - let me know if you need them undeleted for any reason. Everything seems to be in shape now, though I encourage you once more to look at uploading your photos to Wikimedia Commons. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 15:21, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Texas Tech

Hi Elred, I noticed you added scarlet to the section headings of the Texas Tech article. It does look nice and fits the theme, but unfortunately the Manual of Style discourages it. It would reduce the consistency with other articles that use plain black for their section headings. Another thing, take note of the capitalization rule. Only the first letter of a heading should be capitalized, unless the subsequent words are proper nouns. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask me on my talk page. By the way - congrats on owning us in both sports this year. I guess the rivalry will get bitter next year, right? --Blueag9 (Talk | contribs) 06:00, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Response

Eldred,

As an "informed" graduate student, I would expect you to understand continuity and clarity. If I cannot edit the TTU page without it being construed at vandalism, I would hope and trust in you to clean up the page and it's respective sections to a higher standard.

Several sections/things have caught my eye most blatantly.

The readability in the "athletics" section is very poor; it jumps from sport to sport randomly and returns to others at its own convenience (Basketball is mentioned at the beginning and then left until the very end). You might mention football as well, the boys in black been making some strides in recent years.

"Facilities" needs to mention more of the research capability of the university as a whole. Mentioning numerous athletic facilities is helpful, but it does not give a well rounded image of the institution. The new research building is not even mentioned.

The flow of the page seems slightly out of order. I would suggest looking at another well designed major institutions page EX. the University of Michigan, for a general impression.

Best.

You may have valid contributions to make mate, but I think you need to learn about wikipedia etiquette a little bit before you attempt bold edits. Once again, you left an anonymous message on my talk page just as you made all of your edits anonymously. If you want people to give you any credibility you need to create a user name and stick to it. That way you'll earn some credibility. I'd be happy to have you contribute to the betterment of the page that I've worked on, but I don't like to see anonymous IP address editors coming in and having reversion battles with the people who have worked on that page from its inception. Can you not understand that? Make note, I wasn't even the one who reverted your edits. I was just attempting to explain to you why your edits were dismissed as vandalism.

I didn't notice you contributing any substantial information to the page (like the research capability you mention.) You simply deleted and re-ordered information that was posted by others. Eventually I hope to have a comprehensive page on par with the best (michigan might be an example.) However, if you were to compare the current state of the TTU page to what is was six months ago, you'd see how dramatic the change has been. That change has come, in large part, due to the combined efforts of about four people (myself included.) If you want to help we'd be glad to have you, but cut the antagonistic nonsense and go into the discussion page and we'll all work together.

...and where is the "informed" quote coming from? Is it just mere smart-assery?--Elred 03:08, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

No smartassery/antagonism present. I have connections to Tech and want the best for it even if I cannot aid directly. "Informed" has a relative connotation. As a grad student you should have writing skills of above average competency and should thus be in a good position to promote the page. There are however those who attend post-grad in the absence of other options for the pursuit of the piece of paper, nothing more. They, I am skeptical of and hence, "informed." I have faith you are the former. Again, best. (intentionally anonymous)

[edit] Unspecified source for Image:Texas-Tech-University-logo.png

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[edit] Non-commercial use images

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Good work. In hindsight, I should have just tagged the image and left you a note. Sorry about that. Rklawton 20:38, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Library section in the Texas Tech University article

Okay, for balance, I will leave it as it is. However, it seems a bit disjointed to stick "Athletics" between "Academics" and "Libraries and museums" since the latter two pair up better and the first is extracurricular. →Wordbuilder 19:07, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I agree on both counts. An article that details the campus and buildings is a good idea. I figured you were talking about images when you referred to "balance". I like the right-left-right setup as well. →Wordbuilder 20:34, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bobby Knight photo

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By the way, the flickr user replied quickly to my message ... he has changed the licensing terms so it is all good now. --B 05:47, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images

		The Photographer's Barnstar
		I award you this Barnstar in appreciation of your efforts in both creating and gathering images for Texas Tech-related articles. Keep up the great work! →Wordbuilder 03:00, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

hehe thanks --Elred 03:04, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

RE: http://jeffreymark.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/65009_512.jpg ←I like that. Hope you'll get permission and I'll see it show up in the article soon. →Wordbuilder 13:51, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ratings

Though it's not required, a good step toward FA status is to request a peer review. This will get some editors in there telling us what we're missing or if there's something that doesn't follow the Manual of Style, etc. This way, we can get it cleaned up before we try to move on to GA or FA status. →Wordbuilder 21:10, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Ah! I see you already requested a peer review. Looks like you're on the right path. →Wordbuilder 21:12, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

What would you think about deleting the "Facilities" section and just moving that picture of the Jones to some other place in the article? Since lists aren't desirable and all of those are a part of the template anyway, there's no reason to keep that section. For the songs, we can leave the description and link to the articles with the lyrics but delete the lyrics from the TTU article. Finally, we should move the "Athletics" section down now if we have expanded enough to make this possible while preserving the balance of the images. →Wordbuilder 14:16, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

I was kinda planning to create a Campus section that talks about the physical location, geography, architecture, buildings of the campus and I would include the sports facilities in that. Thus the "facilities" list you are talking about was already on the chopping block. Kill it. Don't worry about the photo distribution so much right now, we'll move things around to fit the layout of the page once its how we want it. ...and I have no problem with removing the song lyrics.--Elred 15:47, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image resize

As I was resizing it to match the infobox I was wondering, "S'pose this displays differently on some systems?" I guess I have my answer. Feel free to revert it. Due to the difference, it will always appear just a bit off to some. I liked the old picture but understand the need for the swap. Besides the author's discomfort, the HDR thing would likely be brought up again as we head to GA and FA statuses. Just as long as we can keep the old one of the Administration Building and newer ones showing a good cross section of the campus, I'll be happy. →Wordbuilder 01:37, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. I'll go to battle over the old admin shot. I can replace the others myself. I'm going to try to go up in one of the buildings and get an overhead shot of something. I think I can get something pretty good like that.--Elred 01:52, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Do you happen to know who took the picture featured in the MSNBC article? →Wordbuilder 02:42, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

No I have no idea.--Elred 15:59, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Your edit to 2007 Texas Tech Red Raiders football team

The write-up on the Colorado game is on its way. I reverted your edit. It was amusing, but still... →Wordbuilder 22:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I share your frustration. →Wordbuilder 17:24, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Angelo State University

Stu8912 added some great images to this article. I relocated some of them because they were creating white spaces but was wondering if there was a better way to arrange them. When you get a chance, can you take a look at it? Thanks! →Wordbuilder (talk) 15:27, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

On closer examination of the images, I think many of them may end up being tagged for deletion. →Wordbuilder (talk) 15:35, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Did I ever respond to this? I just noticed it and I don't feel like I've read it before. I noticed those images and they're pretty good, I do think they should be spread around a bit though instead of two columns on the sides. I'll mess with it a bit.--Elred (talk) 19:28, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. It looks good. Also, if you can do anything with the uniforms at Texas Tech Red Raiders men's basketball, that'd be great. I can't figure out how to make them specific to the Tech uniforms. →Wordbuilder (talk) 23:53, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Wow! Way to put everyone else's uniform examples to shame. Those look great all the way down to the tiny American flags. →Wordbuilder (talk) 01:26, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I can't figure out how to center that thing yet. I had to remake the whole box because they all use a template that incorporates those cheesy generic uniforms. ...still messing with it.--Elred (talk) 02:14, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New photos

I notice you've updated some of the photos for Tech. The old ones were nice and the new ones nicer yet. Would you mind if I moved copies of the older versions to Wikimedia Commons? There they can be in galleries for viewing without having to be used in articles. The added benefit is that they can be used by folks on the non-English Wikis. →Wordbuilder (talk) 03:58, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I wondered about that one shot of The Masked Rider statue after I moved it. I noticed one or two beforehand that weren't yours so didn't move those. The one of the library was moved by someone else. I see now where it's credited to the place in Dallas. I'll list them for deletion from the Commons. Thanks for the heads up. →Wordbuilder (talk) 02:54, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Jones AT&T Stadium

Thank you so much for the new picture of the inside of The Jones! I never thought this picture did it justice. I've already moved yours to the Commons and got it up on the French Wikipedia where they had previously insisted on using the other one since it was an inside view and they didn't want just an exterior shot in the article. The other images you've added look great, too. →Wordbuilder (talk) 01:17, 27 April 2008 (UTC)